[Robert Delafano]: for June 24th, 2026 will come to order. We do have an agenda to follow. First thing on the agenda is to approve the minutes from the, let's see, April 15th and May 20th meetings sent to us by Garriott. Thank you, Garriott. Alan, I don't know if you've had a chance to look over the minutes that I have. I have, yeah. They both look to be in order. I didn't see any issues at all with them. So if you'd like to make a motion to accept both of them. Yeah, yeah. No, I did both of them last time. So I'm good with this. I make a motion to accept the minutes for the April 15th meeting.
And I think it was the May 20th meeting.
[SPEAKER_07]: That's correct.
[Robert Delafano]: Yeah, sorry. Nice job. Very concise. I think it makes sense. So thank you for that. Thank you. So a motion to accept the minutes is in order. All those in favor? Aye. Aye. All those opposed? Hearing and seeing none, the minutes have been accepted. OK, next item on the agenda. I'm out of here. Okay. Do we have a representative from Chandrika Corporation, BBA Heritage Liquors and Marketing? Yes. All right.
[SPEAKER_09]: Could you kindly state your name and business that you're representing for the record? Sure. So my name is Jackson Christian. I'm an attorney at Michael Lewis & Gawkes, and I'm here on behalf of the applicant, which is Chandrika Corporation. Okay. All right, Jackson, tell us a little about today. Sure. So also here on behalf of the applicant are Nipun Patel, who's its president, Lucky Patel, its director, and Sagar Patel, who's the proposed manager for the liquor license. Attorney Evan Palavas is also here. I represent Bargain Spot Liquors. Okay.
[Robert Delafano]: Evan Palavas, P-I-L-A-V as in Victor, I-S as in Sam. That's Bargain Spot Liquors. Yes.
[SPEAKER_09]: Yep. So, Chandriga Corporation is purchasing the business assets, including the all-alcoholic beverages license of Bargain Spot Liquors West Medford, Inc., which does business as Bargain Spot Liquors here at 440 High Street in Medford. Upon purchasing the business, the applicant is going to change the name to Heritage Liquors and Market. But otherwise, the store is going to continue to operate basically the same as it did before. So Sagar Patel is the proposed manager of record for the liquor license. He's experienced in the alcohol sales industry and he's never had any violations related to the sale of alcohol or anything like that. Sagar is TIP certified and he's familiar with the rules and regulations for selling alcohol in the Commonwealth.
One detail of this transaction is that Rockland Trust Company is providing financing for the purchase. So Rockland is requiring a pledge of the liquor license and the inventory of the store to secure that financing. And yeah, so overall, there's just three things we're asking the commission for today. First is approving the transfer of the license to TransJuca Corporation. Second is approving Sagar Patel as the manager of record. And third is approving that pledge of the liquor license and the inventory to Rockland Trust Company. Thank you for your time this afternoon, and we're happy to answer any questions that the commission has. Okay.
[Robert Delafano]: I'm sorry, I know this is a 250 from Rockland. Am I reading that correctly? Does that sound right? I think it's $240,000. I'm sorry. No, we're right. Yep.
[SPEAKER_09]: Very prudent of them to welcome the pledge. They know what they're doing over here. Yeah, yeah. He was a banker for 44 years, so he always did this. He always made some pledges. Bankers are stippers.
[Robert Delafano]: I do have a question. Nipun Patel. is the 75% known, correct? Yes, that's correct. Okay, I did notice that Mike Bennett is not a U.S. citizen? Yes. And we must be a U.S. citizen if I have documentation as a Native American or he cannot be a 50%, or he can only be a 50% owner?
[SPEAKER_09]: I don't think that's, there's actually no requirement to be a citizen for owning shares of the corporation. The requirement is only for being a director of the corporation.
[Robert Delafano]: Only being a director?
[SPEAKER_09]: Yeah, you have to have, the majority of the directors have to be, or actually I think all the directors have to be U.S. citizens for a Section 15 license. But there's actually no requirements for being a citizen or anything like that for having ownership of a corporation with a license.
[Robert Delafano]: I'm reading here. Please note the following statutory requirements for directors and LLC managers. Right, directors. Directors and LLC managers. This isn't an LLC, it's a corporation. Okay. At least 30% must be U.S. citizens. I read it to be a little different, but anyway.
[SPEAKER_09]: OK. So it's a limited partnership, right? So they even pay limited part? That's the seller. That's the seller. I'm sorry. Yeah. It's a corporation. The only director is Lucky Patel. Lucky is a US citizen, so it meets the requirements under the statute. Okay. I read it wrong.
[Robert Delafano]: I apologize. It's somewhere that he left his name under a manager. Well, it's just a director slash LLC manager, Is that what you're talking about, Pat? Yeah, I thought that he signed something on the application, like the corporate wrote us something as a manager. Wrote us an authorizing fund for Phil to sign the application and submitted the same fund to that woman. Corporate officer. Corporate officer. Voted to authorize the employment of a male person to sign the application submitted and to these perhaps necessary statements to all the things required and granted. Voted to enter the bond. Again, corporate officer, LLC manager. One last thing, I got to check.
It says, please note the following statutory requirements for directors and LLC managers. On page 24, it says he's an LLC manager.
[SPEAKER_09]: It's a corporation, not an LLC, so he can't be an LLC manager. But what you're trying to say is he's signed a line that says corporate offices, LLC managers.
[Robert Delafano]: Which page are you talking about? You're looking at page 24 on the what you sent to Damir on an electronic file. Right, I don't think I get the same page in this case. Actually, the title of the page is the corporate phone.
[SPEAKER_09]: Yeah, it actually does not say he's LLC manager there. He's signed under corporate officer slash LLC manager. That's just the ABC's form. They don't have different forms, whether it's a corporation or an LLC. That's why they write corporate officer slash LLC manager. He is the corporate officer. He's the president. Okay. Okay. Thank you for clearing that up.
[Robert Delafano]: You double up. OK. I have one more thing. Let me just double check one other thing. Maybe CC would reach out. If there's something we're missing, they would reach back out to us. Yeah. I'm sure they'd pick it up. There are also stickers. No, that's fine. Yeah, everything else, everything else did look fine. That was the only question I had. Like I said, I apologize. I thought that was an Andor. Anyway, I didn't see him as at least 50% Olin. Yeah, no problem.
[SPEAKER_09]: These things are very confusing. I only know because I have to go through them so often.
[Robert Delafano]: Yeah. Okay, the rest of the website will have it too. Yeah, I know. We're kind of scrutinizing this because the last thing we want is to have it go down there, and then it comes back, and then we're all mad about how much time we've lost.
[SPEAKER_09]: Agreed, yeah, we definitely don't want that. So might as well, if we can catch things at the beginning. Plus, they don't think we're idiots up here. I understand that.
[Robert Delafano]: Okay, well, the rest of it looks good to me. Alan, if you'd like to make a motion. Yeah, hold on a second. So we're going to do transfer license, right? We're going to do a pledge of inventory. Yeah. What else? And there was the third one. What's the third? Yeah, there's a pledge of Let's see, yeah, the pledge of the liquor license.
[SPEAKER_09]: Pledge of the liquor license. Pledge of the inventory, pledge of collateral, liquor license. And then the other thing is just making, approving Sagar Patel as the manager of record for the license. Okay, thank you.
[Robert Delafano]: All right, so I make a motion to approve the application for transfer of license, pledge of inventory, and pledge of collateral, if you can sense, right? Maybe. alongside Rob Patel for the manager. Transferred manager. All those in favour? Aye. All those opposed? Hearing and seeing none, the ayes have it. Thank you so much. I appreciate your time.
[SPEAKER_09]: Thank you. Thank you. Thank you for working with us. It's 165 pages. It was heavy for me to carry this thing in here. I just let him do all the heavy work. Thank you. Thank you.
[Robert Delafano]: Okay, next on the agenda, representative from Rassos Food Method, LLC, DBA Rassos Grill. Guys, come up, sit down. Do you have a transfer license and we have an entertainment license for Rassos, is that right? Yes. Yes.
[SPEAKER_07]: Thank you.
[Robert Delafano]: We're going to do them up separate, right? Let's look at the The regular transfer of press. Okay, you guys want to just state your names and business name for the record?
[SPEAKER_06]: Jacob Redmond. It is a Brussels Food Network LLC. And I'm Joseph Redmond. Okay, Joseph. Richard Russell, Brussels Grill.
[Robert Delafano]: Brussels Grill. been around for a while. All good there. And I can see from being a customer. You guys run the place, you're doing a real good job. Thank you. Okay. I don't know if you picked up on anything, Alan. I only saw one thing. The And well, that's some of the entertainment I've seen since.
[SPEAKER_09]: A couple of things, Mr. Redman. I know you were the buy-counter, is that right? Yes. Yeah. Manager. Okay, since 17, I think it was, 2017? I've been a server. That's where I started. And then I've been manager since January of 2020.
[SPEAKER_06]: Okay. So you have a good
[Robert Delafano]: understanding of how the restaurant, the bar, everything works, correct? Yes. Yeah.
[SPEAKER_02]: And the choice.
[SPEAKER_09]: And will you be, uh, is there some kind of a time period that you will kind of distance yourself from?
[Robert Delafano]: Yeah. Okay. Yeah. Usually we see with these type of transactions, the, the owner usually hangs around to get everybody accustomed to, but then since you've been managing the place for a while, so you have Well, we'd be more in the way.
[SPEAKER_07]: I'll be there.
[Robert Delafano]: All right. That was I was just concerned about that. Also, there was one thing, you know, as I was saying, being a former banker, I noticed in the transaction, see if I can get back to it. I see a total number of what, 625. So I see financing, I see the deposit, but I don't see the other $25,000. So I see a total cost of $625,000. I see $600,000 for the purchase of the business assets, and then other for $25,000. Is the other $25,000 inventory, or what's the other $25,000?
[SPEAKER_06]: The inventory gets adjusted at closing, so we'll be buying all the alcohol, the remainder of the food. And it just asked for an estimate, so we didn't, you know, our inventory changes week to week. We just threw a number out there, but we could adjust that or give you guys the actual number when we do close. Yeah, so that's the C and the other.
[Robert Delafano]: Yeah, no, I saw that. Yeah, we didn't account for it as far as. Right, but I was kind of curious to know what that other 25 was, because I can see both numbers adding up to 600. Right. All right, that explains that. Well, other than that, I didn't see anything else. I didn't see anything online. Mr. Chairman, I don't know if you have any questions on it. Yeah, no, it looked fine to me. Everything seemed in order. I went over it a couple of times and tested it with the only application. You tested it yourself, sir?
[SPEAKER_06]: Yeah.
[Robert Delafano]: It did well. Yeah. It did very well. All 125 pages. Yeah, it was a lot of fun. Yeah. It's not easy. 99, 98% with lawyers. Yeah. Because it's extremely confusing. It's a bear, yeah. that's from. Yeah, so I'm good with the transfer of license. If you'd like to make a motion. Yeah, no, I'll be happy to make a motion to approve the transfer of license for Roswell's Grill convention on Mystic Island. Okay, I second the motion. All in favor? Aye. All those opposed? Hearing and seeing none, the ayes have it. Well set. Then we should do the entertainment. Let's do the entertainment. What kind of entertainment?
[SPEAKER_06]: So just maybe once a year a DJ. Usually, typically, but for the last 20 years we've had a DJ on Thanksgiving Eve. It's normally just that. We have a separate area for them. We remove the tables, all the electricals, all taped down. nice and safe manner. As far as, we also have a music system, just a typical speakers, and then we have televisions. Other than that, nothing crazy.
[Robert Delafano]: Are you not applying for patrons? So there'd just be two of the three.
[SPEAKER_06]: Okay. That's what I saw from that. When we got the signatures, they just signed it just in case, like when they wanted to see the chief of the fire police.
[Robert Delafano]: Yeah. Yeah. Six devices, as it says in the back, total number of devices located on the premises. Five televisions, one audio system, is that still on? Yes. Okay. All right. And everything was signed off, police, fire, building, and border health. Yeah. We're not experts in any of that stuff. We basically just mostly concerned in the chapter 138 stuff. And we leave it to those department heads for public safety, because they're the experts. They're the ones that have to go in and say, yes, it's good. No, it's not. And we don't come there. So as long as they signed off on it, we're all good with it. Unless you have anything. No, no, it's pretty straightforward.
They're just, it's status quo, right? It looks like what you have now, it's the same. So we're fine with it before. All right, I'll make a motion to approve the entertainment license for Rassos on 209, for the sixth of license. I'm sorry, the entertainment license. Everything but the patients. Everything but the patients. All right. I second the motion. All those in favor? Aye. All those opposed? Hearing and seeing none. The ayes have it. Motion passed. Gentlemen, good luck with your new business.
[SPEAKER_06]: Yes.
[Robert Delafano]: Thank you very much. Good luck to you. Thank you.
[SPEAKER_02]: Just get a portion off there. Now, how did the 3M thing, did the convention approve that, or are they allowing that to happen? Believe me, you don't want to know.
[Robert Delafano]: Yeah, we are. I mean, it's curious. What it came up to is, as a commission, we have to discuss it, and we have to either approve or deny it. From the way the law was written, is you get a one-hour extension of your time that's on your license. You've got a two o'clock. you get to Twiggy. If you only have one block, you get to Twiggy. The second part of that is they have districts, which I don't believe there's any place in Medford that would fall into that, unless you can somehow convince the mayor to close Mystic Avenue and you guys in Great American Dale to close it off, and everybody can party from both your places and cover all of Mystic Avenue. Let them do what the guys do. They're going to play on our street, probably. I don't think there's any learning method that would qualify for that, in my opinion. But we do have on the agenda to discuss that. And if we approve it, anyone like yourself, if you would like to take advantage of it, you just send a letter to Damir, an email, in writing, stating that, and it'll automatically be approved. And Washington said no, they didn't approve it. Was it to the end of July? July 31st, October. Yeah, it's kind of weird.
[SPEAKER_07]: I guess it's... The one o'clock is good, because one of the two is when you get that bad trouble. Everything up to one seems good.
[Robert Delafano]: The crazy thing is that we're not getting a lot of requests or calls or comments about it. Let's take care of things. Okay, next on the agenda, we have a representative from Snappy Patties for emissions transfer.
[SPEAKER_00]: Present.
[Robert Delafano]: Oh, up there. Okay. Hi, Steve. That's Adam. Adam. Okay. Proud to see you.
[SPEAKER_00]: Thank you. I thought it best not to come in feeling a little under the weather given the summer flu season.
[SPEAKER_04]: There you go. Okay. Also present is Attorney Michael Brodigan on behalf of the applicant.
[Robert Delafano]: Okay. Michael.
[SPEAKER_04]: Yes.
[Robert Delafano]: And you too, folks, if you could state your name and business for the record.
[SPEAKER_11]: Peter O'Connor, Merced, two holdings. OK. Catherine O'Connor. And I'm Catherine. Yes, sir. What's a K or a C?
[Kelly Catallo]: K-A-T-H-R-Y-N.
[Unidentified]: I want to see it.
[Robert Delafano]: Some notes over here. Thanks to you, Michael. That was one of my questions. I got a chance to look this over. I've come up with a few things. I don't know if you want to lead off or you want me to. No, go ahead.
[Unidentified]: Yeah.
[Robert Delafano]: Page 3. No matter. PDF. Actually, page 2, I have something. Page 2 with the hours. I know this description of premise number four on application for transfer of a license. It says the premise consists of a full-service restaurant with booth and high-top seating for 54 patrons, three-floor dining room, kitchen, storage, and restrooms to service by a second-level private basement area, storage and meal prep. There was also an outdoor patio with bar and dining area and the parking lots.
What I was concerned about was the hours. It was actually a number one transaction information. It says the hours of operation will be seven days a week until 1 a.m. That's not going to be correct only because hours of operation on your common VIC license is 7 a.m. to 11 p.m. Sunday through Saturday, and then Thursday, Friday, Saturday, 7 a.m. to 1 a.m. Sundays, the earliest you can start is noon. And you can go till 11 p.m. because that's what it says on your common deck. So you can do noon to 11 p.m. on Sunday only.
You have 7 a.m. to 11 p.m. on, I'm sorry, we had it on Sunday, but for Thursday, Friday, Saturday, you have it 7 a.m. to 1 a.m. The best that you can do with this common VAC is Sunday noon to 11 p.m., Monday, Tuesday, Wednesday, You can go till 11 p.m. You cannot start serving liquor at 7 a.m. The state law is 8 a.m. the very earliest. Message rules are new. Depends upon, and it'll be the same for Thursday, Friday, Saturday. You can go as early as 8 a.m. to 1 a.m.
Now, if you think you want to be serving brunch or something like that, you want to go a little earlier, you can. As long as we approve it, because your common vigil is licensed at 7am, but the earliest we'll allow you to serve is 8am. Obviously, no one's going to come in at 8am and start drinking. We hope, yeah. I mean, if you've got something reasonable, like your brunch starts at 10 a.m. or 9 a.m. or whatever, and you want to come before the commission to say, listen, when we serve any brunch, maybe we can adjust the hours from 9 a.m. to 1 a.m. on the weekends. That's fine. I'm sure.
[Kelly Catallo]: Do we do that now with you, or is it just separate?
[Robert Delafano]: I'm open to it if you are a commissioner. Well, that's kind of why we're reasonable. Right. We can kind of modify it. And then, ultimately, wouldn't they have to go before council to get the final number, the final sum? Well, no, because, well, the thing is, is they only need to go before council for the common victor. Right. So they have to have food available. OK. We handle the alcohol. Yeah, where it's in the City of Medford rules and regulations, they might have to bring it before the Council. Yeah, because it stops at 11, and if we go to 1, then they have to serve food.
[Daria Tejera]: They have to get it while they're coming by the City. Right. Well, there you are. You've got to do it twice.
[Robert Delafano]: Well, to serve food. To serve food.
[Daria Tejera]: Okay. Certain days.
[Robert Delafano]: It's just not all seven days. It's not all seven days. Okay. Just Thursday, Friday, Saturday.
[SPEAKER_02]: Okay.
[Robert Delafano]: Um, well, what I'm more concerned of is the earlier time. Now, uh, instead of no, well, Sunday has to be noon because the city of Medford's never adopted. I believe it's still early, which allows you to serve as early as 10 a.m. So I think if we go before the council to go for earlier hours on Monday, Tuesday, Wednesday, Thursday, Friday, Saturday, we can approach them possibly for a 33B at the same time. And then if they approve that, then we're all good. You can start serving at 10 a.m. on a Sunday, and then as early as 8 a.m. the rest of the day, as long as they approve it, because that's what the ABCC says you can do. They also say the earliest that you can have that the city cannot deny you is 11 o'clock a.m. So the earliest you're going to get is 11 if the city council doesn't push it through, it will be okay. But if you want to go earlier than 11, then that's fine. I don't, did you happen to know the repair office where on the recollections itself, because I tried to look, but I didn't see the actual folder, the snappy, snappy, the same thing that they have on the company.
[Daria Tejera]: But oh, it does. Yeah.
[Robert Delafano]: OK.
[Daria Tejera]: But because Adam came to us not too long ago. I don't remember if it was before the New Year's or after New Year's to change the hours from 11 to one. Yeah. OK. On Thursday. Yeah. Yeah. OK. Well, whatever the hours are. Oh, I get what you mean for the opening. It must be a lot. We don't do anybody early than that.
[Robert Delafano]: No, but I'm thinking maybe everybody was in the mood still when that's a city, right? On a Sunday, it's 12. No, not Sunday. The rest of the week, Monday through Saturday. I mean, we don't have to go before the city council for 11. No, because we can't deny them and the city can't deny them before. anytime 11 o'clock to 2 a.m. Right. Yeah. But when they want to go before.
[Daria Tejera]: Yeah.
[Robert Delafano]: Right. Like by far, you know how everyone was talking about the game was earlier. And maybe what you may want to do is discuss the times that you think you want to begin serving. If you're going to do brunches and you can bring that before us and and we'll maybe do a contingency contingent upon having approval by the city council. And when you go to present it to the city council, it'll be the same way as it was when we did the petition to change the hours, which they did recently to go until 1 a.m.
And once they give you the okay, then you'll automatically, we'll give you the time that you need down to a minimum, whatever your fare was. Does that make sense? Yes, that makes sense. Thank you.
[SPEAKER_11]: Yes, thank you. So it's 1 a.m. Thursday, Friday, Saturday right now?
[Robert Delafano]: Right now, it's Thursday, Friday, Saturday. You can serve until 1 a.m. And what time is it open? And that's opening at 11 a.m. I've got to see what the license says, but you can have 11 a.m. We can change that without city council's approval. And Sunday is a noon opening, I think you're telling me, right? Sunday is noon the earliest. And what time is closing for the Sunday then? Sunday closing time is 11 p.m.
[SPEAKER_04]: And can Matthew switch to one? Yeah.
[Robert Delafano]: Yeah. Yeah. And that's how it is currently.
[Daria Tejera]: But that doesn't mean it's excellent stone for out. But that's also not your opening hours. That's just for when you can start selling liquor. Right.
[Unidentified]: Yeah.
[Daria Tejera]: So you're coming big. You're coming big is the one that allows you to stay open from 7 a.m. to whatever. But our hours just stay when you can start serving in between.
[Robert Delafano]: The way I'm not sure if you're familiar with it too is that like say you have a 1 a.m. closing time. last call would be like 1230 and then all alcohol has to be removed from the bar, the tables and you have body on the block. So that's kind of the way the rules work. If you want to pursue those hours or whatever hours you want to pursue, you know, for earlier, just bringing before the council. I'm glad you brought that up, Alan, because I forgot it was in the city of Metro rules and rights. But they can't be denied, even though city of Metro rules and rights say noon, Monday through Saturday, they can't be denied 11 o'clock, because that's, it says in 138 sections. Right, that's the time, right? So, yeah, we'll pursue that.
The city council gives you the AOK barrier. We'll put it on your license and you'll know exactly what you have. Just the only thing that you're going to make sure your kitchen is open if you decide to stay open until 1 a.m. because you cannot serve alcohol unless you've got food available. Okay. That was great. A couple of things. I noticed nothing was executed. Are we waiting to hear from the state first before
[SPEAKER_11]: because it seems like everything is pending, right? Right, yeah, I gave you a gift letter, I gave you a promissory note, I did give you my bank statement, but those two, the signature and the lease itself, those are all contingent upon approval.
[Robert Delafano]: Okay, I guess really my last question, who's Ms. Coffman? She seems very generous. My aunt. Your aunt. Okay. She likes me. Yes. Okay. Nice aunt. Let's see. Okay, the next thing I have on page three, which is the continuation of the application for transfer under proposed offices, stock or ownership interests. It says that the individuals and titles listed in this section must be identical to those filed with the Massachusetts Secretary of State. If we read down a couple more bullet points, please note the following statutory requirement for directors and LLC managers. On premise, an example restaurant, at least 50% must be U.S. citizens, which you are. Yes. But, Catherine, I take it you're the 50% that's a U.S. citizen. Yes. But your name also has to be on the Massachusetts Secretary of State form, which it's not. It's Mr.
[SPEAKER_04]: I can speak to that. I can speak to that. That's just an error that we can file an amendment to correct. Both are meant to be on there. Yeah.
[Robert Delafano]: Yeah, I was going to request that you change that because it's an older form. I believe it's from 2025. Yes. Somewhere here. Lots of pages. I can get into it now. Yeah. Yeah. S.O.C. Signatory, Michael Brodigan. And the date, 6th of March, 2025. So we're gonna have to change your name, I believe, to, We're going to have to change our name to Catherine's name because she's a citizen, a U.S. citizen.
[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, I think the amendments in the works to add Catherine as a manager as well.
[Robert Delafano]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_04]: Yes.
[Robert Delafano]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah.
[Robert Delafano]: So that's, you know, I'm sure you can get into one easy enough from the state. So that'll be one of the contingencies soon. get a new certificate of organization. Okay. Go back to that page for me. I've been on page three again, where I was just reading the proposed office of stock or ownership interest. We have Catherine O'Connor at 50% and Peter O'Connor at 50%, but clearly you never put a title or a position in that, right below your name.
Catherine, as manager, we need to put something in what you do. What page is that, sir? It's on, um, let's see what the actual page is. Page two on, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, corporate principles, I don't think I'm going to share exactly what it was, but just fill that in, that's all. Title opposition.
That's going to be on page, I'm going to just write page three, because that's what it is on my records. Yeah, item six, page three. Bad brand needs to be updated. And I get Catherine's signature missing on a proposed manager sheet. I don't know if it's this one. I can find what page that is. Manager application. Number 12. Number 12, yes. I said it. Yes. Number six on your paperwork. the manager's application. It just needs a manager's signature down at the bottom in the box.
Okay. The thing was we need the hours of operation. Yeah. Those are the only things I've found. No more housekeeping items. Yeah, exactly. I don't know if all the finance stuff looked good to you, Alex. Yeah, that was all fine. Okay, and I did notice the... Are you folks applying for an entertainment license as well?
[SPEAKER_11]: We are, yes. I think we have to, right? Because of the transfer, right? Yeah. Okay.
[Robert Delafano]: It hasn't been submitted yet and that probably could have been done today because we're not meeting for the next couple of months. I mean, if I'm not, let's see what happens when you when you reach back out to us to sign these contingencies. And what I could say is we probably wouldn't have an issue with you carrying on in the same manner that Adam carried on with his entertainment license until yours is approved in September. It's just we're not going to have a special meeting to do that.
Just keep it as is. In other words, behave. Yeah, we will. And keep it quiet. This commission shuts down in July and August. Okay. And we've learned in the past that, you know, everybody's taking their vacations, you know, inspectors, everybody.
[SPEAKER_09]: So it's impossible to get anything truly done in July and August, but September we will be back.
[Robert Delafano]: But the chairman's right, just keep the status quo with the existing and we'll be fine. No live parties, no dancing in the streets, no soccer games or anything like that, you know?
[Kelly Catallo]: Awesome.
[Robert Delafano]: Yeah. Even if Ireland wins.
[Kelly Catallo]: I know.
[Robert Delafano]: Not even there.
[Kelly Catallo]: They didn't even qualify.
[Robert Delafano]: So you don't have to worry about that. I've got to go crazy. Okay, other than that, I didn't find anything. Yeah, no, I was good with the two, I was cruising through. So the way it stands right now is that the applications for a transfer of license only won't explore the entertainment and they're going to modify the hours, request a modification to the hours? Yeah, what we're going to do is, you know, hours of operation, they're going to go before the council to see if they can get earlier hours on the weekdays, other than every day except Sunday, if they want to do a branching. But if not, they have a minimum 11 a.m., which is, you can still use the hours that are on your current license now, until they verify that they can get earlier than 11.
[Daria Tejera]: Well, they still need to update their common bid, regardless, under the new business. And it would only make sense for the public.
[Robert Delafano]: So that'd be even better when you go before the city council, get the hours that you want on the coming day. Yeah, right on the coming day. I mean, you can go 2 a.m. if you want. I'm not saying that you have to. I'm not saying you have to be open, but, you know, you get a New Year's party or something, something crazy, just have a drink. But, you know. Yeah, rather than having to circle back to that extra hour. Okay. And if we do adopt this extra hour or two through July 31st, you know, you just, if you want to take advantage of an extra hour or two hours that you currently have now, then you'll be able to, if we approve it.
[SPEAKER_02]: Okay.
[Robert Delafano]: We just need a request through Gabby at email, because she needs to let the ABCC know that you're going to be participating in that. And we just have to make these few changes here and do that right away. Yes. Did you know what they are? Yes. Speed hours of operation verified, I'll say. And I'm going to put Ant Carmen Vic. Ant Carmen Vic updated. Because it's going to need to be updated with your name on it. corporation names. The second thing was a new certificate of organization from the secretary. The third thing was a title of position on page three to be filled in. And those would be the four contingencies Um, if permission, I'm not around to agrees that we can, we can pass this with contingent. Yeah. No, I guess you can put it in the form of a motion and I'll second. It's a reading trip. So yeah.
So the first thing is to transfer a license, correct? In addition to the extras. Yeah. So I'll make a motion to, um, to transfer the license, uh, the snappy caddies to I'm going to get back to my first video chat. I would say that, so I'm holding something, boom, hold it, boom, hold it. It's going to be Rory O'Connor. It's going to be called Rory O'Connor. Rory O'Connor is a lot easier than Jim, isn't it? Rory O'Connor.
For a transfer of license from snapping batteries and contingent upon the hours of operation need to be verified on a new Common Vic license. and approved by City Council Council. Um, also contingent upon new certification of organization. So a certificate of organization through the secretary.
[Daria Tejera]: Let's take this question. Our Spain that won't be approved till a couple weeks whenever they contact City Council. So do we wait until that's approved by the City Council and then submit to ABCC?
[Robert Delafano]: No, at a minimum, they can be 11 o'clock. Right. 11 a.m. except Sunday. But we can make a petition upon, you know, proper authorities signing off on it. Yep. So we are able to send it to Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, The second contingency was a new certificate of organization from the secretary.
Updating it with Catherine's name. And the third contingency is title opposition or opposition on page three by the manager. and the, not for the manager, whatever your title is. And then on page six, the manager's signature, which is Catherine's. I think I got it all. We've got a lot of contingencies there, but I just want to cover to make sure everything is okay. I did see your, yeah, so look at that. Yeah, so I second the motion on the transfer of license and the pending contingencies. And all those in favor, aye? Aye. All those opposed? Seeing none, the ayes have it.
You're good to go. Thank you so much.
[Kelly Catallo]: Appreciate it. Thank you. Yes, sir. Thank you. Thank you.
[Robert Delafano]: Okay. Next thing on the agenda. The commission will discuss the option to temporarily allow its on-premise licensees to sell alcoholic beverages for one additional hour, not to exceed 3 AM. Basically, we just have to get the okay for that. as well as the districts per se. Allen, I'm not sure if you're clear on it. I've read it over several times, and it's basically, in a nutshell, summarized that if we give the OK, they can have an additional hour to serve on their license, no matter what their time is. Perhaps 2 AM if they go to 3. If it's 11, they can go to 5.
If we approve that, the area has to send it in by portal to the ABCC to let them know we are approving the additional power. And if we also approve a district, which basically means like, for example, like a Richey Yard, you know, maybe close off Method Square, you know, all of the licenses in Method Square can party in the streets and all of that till whenever they want. because it only allows people to purchase alcohol from the licensees that are in that district. So it's not gonna happen in that area. And it's something set up for bigger cities like Boston, outside of the Boston Garden, and areas like that can shut down the street, which they do there in the playhouse. And the majority of them, they're all at the same time. Here, some can only go to 11, some can only go to one. So if you did have a zone, you would have different times, you know, because each license holder might have a different time. Yeah, you'd have to shut down at one point in time, and then the remaining would get the rest of the business. Correct. Oh, Jeff, I need some help.
Okay, hold on. I thought maybe this was the topic that I wanted to talk about. You know, people have talked, but nobody has said, yeah, that's a great idea. Let's do that.
[Kelly Catallo]: I just didn't see it meant to do it.
[Robert Delafano]: I really don't know if there's any interest in even doing that.
[SPEAKER_02]: Right.
[Robert Delafano]: You know, especially where it's my understanding that it expires the end of July. Right. So it's a very short window. I mean, we're going to be talking five weeks.
[Unidentified]: Yeah.
[Daria Tejera]: Today. Yeah. So that's only if they apply to. So like they have to tell us that they want to extend their hours. Right.
[Robert Delafano]: Right. If you have any information. Yeah. That's people are talking. No one's. I wonder what gaps. So. Great American girl. Yeah. I hope they don't just think that they're able to do it on their own, because the governor passed it. They've got to kind of know what the rules are. Yeah. I would think if anybody would love that and would beat that. Right. But we haven't heard from Brian at all on that. Well, he's got a 2 AM license anyways.
So maybe that's enough. Maybe it is. Yeah. Just guessing on that.
[Daria Tejera]: Well, I'm thinking only because it's such a short period of time. Because then, I was thinking of this too, wouldn't they have to extend their Common Vic to another? Yeah, absolutely. So how would that work? Common Vic is different from the Alpha. Right. Because I didn't see anything in there that said anything about Common Vic. But if we inquire, that's one of our rules and regulations, right? It has to be thought about in all circumstances, right? And how often is council meeting? Are they meeting? I think it's every two weeks. Every two weeks. And I think they do take a break. Okay.
[Robert Delafano]: Yeah, so now that five and a half weeks really just shrunk down. I'm kind of, well, my thoughts are coming into it is that we approve the one hour, but not the districts because there's really no need for districts. just in case anybody issues to, what's that? I feel like that would cause issues. Oh yeah, definitely would. Because there would be no power control. So just in case like, say the United States wins the finals, I don't know the first thing I'm going to spot that. But if the right teams win, I guess there's going to be a lot of interest. So, you know, maybe Some place like the Great American Beer Hall that wouldn't want to be open that late might say, hey, you know, this is going to go on and on, and we're going right till the end with this.
You know, we want that license for the extra hour. They don't have to get it. But if we approve it for somebody that may want it, I don't see any harm in that. But that's my opinion. Whatever you feel. And, you know, that's an idea to, yeah, it was too sad. Like I said, I haven't got any feedback on it. Maybe tonight, Kelly, you're going to the joint service center tonight, or?
[Kelly Catallo]: No, Councilor Callahan's learning how to scale the book club.
[Robert Delafano]: Maybe tonight when all the service clubs get together, we've met at Avelino's at six tonight. So maybe, you know, we'll hear something about it. But my inclination is that since there hasn't been any feedback, why even do it? And like I said, it's only about five and a half weeks. Why put it out there as an option? Just, okay, we understand that, you know, what the rule is and the guideline, but we're just not going to participate in it. That's at least that's where I'm coming from on that. Okay. I mean, I can see where you're coming from and I do agree with that. Because like Richie said, anytime after one or two o'clock, you know, you're looking for problems. Yeah. Nothing good happens after two o'clock. Yeah. Well, what we could probably do is if something should change, we don't have to approve this now. It just has to be approved by us before July 31st. So if they come to us with a hardship or whatever, you know, a special case or some special case, we can approve it and we can give it at that point. You know, I think that works both ways.
[Unidentified]: Yeah.
[Robert Delafano]: And that way we're not looking for problems. Right, you say. Right, or stocking problems. Exactly. Yeah. Okay. It's safe and solid. Yeah. So, Gary, you can, you know, I guess you can put in the notes that we discussed the extra hour and we're going to Yeah, we're going to table it. I guess would be a good way to phrase it. Table and review a case by case?
[SPEAKER_09]: Case by case. Or revisit the request on a case by case basis.
[Robert Delafano]: You know, the additional one extra hour. Yeah, but I totally agree with your earlier statement about districts and zones. No, that's great. That was a recipe for disaster.
[Daria Tejera]: Okay, great. And then we just have Megan Smith, too, for EventDem. Oh, EventDem, I'm sorry. Did I miss her? No, they sent it to me after I alerted the agenda.
[Robert Delafano]: I was gonna say, I thought it was going right down the line, but that's fine. Isn't this a great fashion show?
[MCM00000945_SPEAKER_44]: Yes.
[Robert Delafano]: Okay. Oh yeah, in red fashion, yeah, on 718. Yeah, because I know I sent it, but... Yeah, yeah, I had her after at the end. I just made notes. Okay. Okay, Megan, well, we don't have to do anything else with this. We don't have to make a motion or anything. No, no, no, we just saw... All right, Megan, tell us what's going on over at Event Them.
[MCM00000945_SPEAKER_44]: So next month we're hosting another rave fashion show similar, very similar to the last one we hosted last month, especially in terms of the layout. It's going to be the exact same with the bar and that front office area. And we'll be checking IDs and wristbanding at the entry door. just the timing of it's a little bit different. The show itself, last time we had two sessions, this one will just be one. The show starts from five to nine, but doors open at 3.30 for the VIP ticket holders. But we'll be having wine and malts, same as last time. All of our team here is TIP certified, so we'll be the ones that are running the bar. She'll be having catering from Eddie's. And last time we had, a couple of DJs in the School of Rock performing. This time we're just going to be having a couple of DJs.
[Robert Delafano]: Okay, great. I mean, you guys always do a good job. You, Brian, I mean, we never have any problems. We know you got your insurance.
[SPEAKER_09]: Yeah.
[Robert Delafano]: You always give us a nice layout. We don't have any complaints with, you know, police or anything. It's always very professional around here. So I don't have a problem with any of it. It all looks in order to me. Yeah, no, I couldn't agree more. I mean, they do a great job. I motion to approve the one-day license for the event on July 18th for our event down at 344 7th Street in Edmonton. Okay, I second the motion. All in favor? Aye. All those opposed? Hearing and seeing none, the ayes have it. You're all set.
[MCM00000945_SPEAKER_44]: All righty, thank you so much. Good luck with your event.
[Robert Delafano]: Goodbye. Thank you. Bye. Bye, everybody. OK. That was it. Not for new business. Anything for new business. Yeah. That's silly. Come on up. Sit down. Have a seat.
[Daria Tejera]: Thanks. Also, just before I then talk about Asian tastes for the comment back. Yes, we can do that. Yeah, that's fine.
[SPEAKER_07]: I just want to make sure that we cover that.
[Kelly Catallo]: So I sent an email, and I asked to be put on the agenda. I still don't understand why it couldn't be put on the agenda, because what I'm asking you to do is to review the entertainment license of Mrs. Murphy. So they've been there for a year. You know what? It's great. They bring a lot of people to the square. but the hardship is on me. They have basically rendered my real estate office pretty useless, except for the last two days when it poured rain out. But their entertainment, it goes through the walls. I know that the wall wasn't open. I was in and out of there when they were doing their renovations and stuff, and they didn't open up the wall. There's no soundproofing in there. It's a brick wall, brick echoes. They have a wooden floor. There's an open ceiling. So none of that was done to render it so that the noise would not come to me. And I do understand that when you issue that permit, they are responsible to make sure that that noise does not inhabit other people that are trying to do what they're doing on the other side of the wall. It also extends to the back. They have this deck that they've put up out there. I have noise recordings from me sitting at my desk and the noise that is coming from that deck. I've gone to the landlord. He calls their landlord. He tells them to turn it down. It'll go down for five or 10 minutes, and then they blast it again. I've called the police. We've been in the office trying to have meetings and trainings and stuff like that, but live music stops on the other side of the wall. Boom, boom, boom, boom. And I called the police. They come down. They wrote a police report, which I sent in, which says the noise does come through the walls of the realtor office, which means they are causing us a problem. And the noise is leaving their space and coming into our space. They tell them to turn it down. It turns down. Not even 10 minutes later, the police are gone and they jack it back up. At this point, first of all, there's an equity issue on the value of the space, but also it's rendered us like, I can't work when I'm angry. I can't work with noise. You are a banker, Alan. Could you put up with all the yik-yak and behind you all day long? If you wanna hear the noise recordings, I will give it to you. I am asking you to review the entertainment license And at least suspend it until something is done, either to a very nice letter, because I thought that you were going to want one. There you go. Can you take that?
Do they have a band? So they have live music, Alan. They have live music and it is right on my wall. So they have them in that corner, say that's my wall. They have them in that corner and they have amplifiers. So let's go back a year ago. They would start, I would go in there, I'd say to the manager, whoever was there, Can you guys turn it down? We're trying to have a meeting. Oh Yeah, no, there's an oh boy. There's nothing that we can do about it. This speakers that are on that wall so like on a Saturday morning or something they'd be open for say a soccer game or something like that and There's people in there screaming and yelling, and the TV that was on that wall was blaring. You know what I mean? And so that was coming through, and the people are yelling. They're advertising to people to come down. And I took a screenshot of the social media post. Come on down and scream at the screen. You know, Ellen, I've been there for 16 years. There has never, ever been a problem. We had a beautiful block. Everybody works together. Everybody gets along. You know, the guy that owns the pub, Barry, you know what? I would call him. I would text him. I'd be really nice to him. I deal with controversy all day long. He literally told me to screw. I can show you the text messages. You know what I mean? At some point, something's going to give here, all right? So I'm questioning. I've gone through the building department. I had gone through the entire building file. I don't see anything where anything was ever installed to make it that the noise would not come through to me. Your rules are that they could have that entertainment license so long as the noise didn't leave the space. The noise is leaving the space. I have a recording of the TV blasting on the back deck. So if the noise isn't supposed to leave the space, why are they allowed to have a TV outside at one o'clock in the afternoon? I called the police. They didn't come down. I'm being told by police officers Noise complaints are like at the bottom of the barrel. They're too busy. You know what? I don't want them taking away from what they're really supposed to be doing to come down for a noise complaint. This has got to stop.
I've tried. I've tried. I've tried everything. You know what I mean? I'm also requesting a copy of all those records. Here you go, Daryl, that have to do with it because I don't know what they submitted. that would say, OK, let's give them an entertainment license where they can cause all this. Did they have to give you a sound plan that the noise would be contained? How can the noise be contained when their ceiling is open?
Their floor is wood. I've done some research. It vibrates off the brick, off the wood, off the ceiling, and it's coming out of there.
[Robert Delafano]: Is it, uh, you mentioned the Saturday morning when your guys, when your team's working, correct?
[Kelly Catallo]: We're a real estate office. We don't work nine to five.
[Robert Delafano]: No, I know. I get that.
[Kelly Catallo]: Yeah.
[Robert Delafano]: But when is the majority of the sound? Is it a weekend?
[Kelly Catallo]: Okay. These noise recordings that are on my phone, I think that they were like maybe last Wednesday, Thursday, Friday. at one o'clock in the afternoon. That's the noise from the back deck. The noise that comes through the wall with the live bands. I wanna say Thursday night trainings, okay, we can be there till nine, 10 o'clock or whatever. That music starts at eight o'clock. It used to start at five o'clock, so I mean, that's changed, but they start that at eight o'clock.
My people have the right to come use that space 24-7. I don't think that this should be a time thing, OK? It can't happen at all.
[Robert Delafano]: When the music, when the loudness is occurring. So you're saying from 8 o'clock on Wednesday all through the weekend, and then the TVs are on that you can hear, especially out in the open courtyard in the back there. So that's filtering into your establishment also. Yeah.
[Kelly Catallo]: So the other day, you could have stood 10 feet inside the front door of my office and you could hear that TV. I've tried. I need some help.
[Robert Delafano]: Mr. Chairman, what are your thoughts on this? Well, Kelly, I can see your frustration there because it's, you know, you're in an actual place that unfortunately does make quite a bit of noise at times. And, you know, to see some of the things that you're asking for, which is, you've got every right to ask for, because it's affecting your business directly.
[Kelly Catallo]: I've had customers walk out.
[Robert Delafano]: Yeah.
[Kelly Catallo]: Maybe we should redo this meeting another time. I've had agents call me angry that they can't have a meeting in the office because of the noise. It's not fair.
[Robert Delafano]: I understand. And these are legitimate concerns. You know, I noticed a couple of things that you're requesting, and I can't give you an answer if we're able to give them to you, Gary, you can present it probably to the law department. Yeah, it all goes through the office. Because I'm not sure what's public information and what's not, like, you know, entertainment license application, all documents submitted with entertainment license application, any plans submitted with the application. building permit plans, certificate of occupancy, fighter partner review comments, building commissioner review comments, water health review comments, any acoustical study or sound report, any conditions attached to the entertainment license.
I mean, what our primary goal is when we issue an entertainment license is that it's public safety because God forbid you have another fire like that in Connecticut because of flammable, you know, fireworks in the place, flammable contents. That's where the fire department comes in. They look to see if the drapes are, and the seat paddings and whatever, the flammable content of the places. Then the building comes in. Building has probably the most important job out of the people inspecting that place because they have to know where the means of egress are. If the band's going to set up, are they going to be set up near the means of egress? How many square feet per person that the place is occupied for? We don't know any of that. This is all public safety stuff. So, you know, you said that you'd like an entertainment license application. That's on our website. That's public information.
[Kelly Catallo]: I tried to find it.
[Robert Delafano]: It's on there. It's on there for application for a entertainment license.
[Kelly Catallo]: No, their application.
[Robert Delafano]: No, not theirs. I don't know if that's publicly available.
[Kelly Catallo]: No, I can't find it anywhere.
[Robert Delafano]: But if you were looking for an entertainment license application, like on the first thing that you had written there, that has the four signatures, police, fire, building, and border health. They're the experts. We give it to them, and we say, listen, They are applying for a entertainment license, please go and inspect it, make sure that there's not a public safety issue there. They do, they sign off on it. We know that it's all good. What happens after that, it has no relation to Chapter 138, which is the liquor license laws. It's gotta be between you and them.
[Kelly Catallo]: Well, actually, on your website, the entertainment licensing rules does state that entertainment may not be conducted so that the noise becomes a nuisance to persons or entities outside the premises. And the licensing commission does have the right to suspend, modify, cancel or revoke entertainment privileges if the licensee violates those requirements. So that's why I'm here. I've done my research. I mean, I've gone to everybody. The health department, they're already all over the situations of all the dead rats back there because of the food, okay? So that has nothing to do with you. So they're doing their thing. You know what I mean? The building department, there's no commissioner. Like, who am I supposed to, you know what I mean? I've gone through the entire building file. There is nothing there. And I get what you're saying that you believe that everything's a public safety thing. Well, everything that I've learned about entertainment licenses is that they have got to contain the noise. And if they can't contain the noise, you have the right to suspend or revoke the license. They're not containing the noise, Bob.
[Robert Delafano]: OK, well done. I suggested to you that if the noise was unreasonable to call the police.
[Kelly Catallo]: I have that report. I think I sent it to you. And it says it right there on the report that the noise is coming through here through the walls inside the realtor office. It's on the police report.
[Robert Delafano]: Right. But didn't it say something to it? at a reasonable level or not?
[Kelly Catallo]: No, it says noise was not an unreasonable level because they went into the pub. So evidently they have to measure it by decibel. But then she did come back and she and I can order the footage because she had a body cam on her. Exactly what she said to us. Right. Because I did say to her, but it's not supposed to come through the wall. Right. She says, you're right. It's not supposed to come through the wall. It's coming through the wall. The onus is on them, Bob, to keep the noise in there.
[Unidentified]: OK.
[Kelly Catallo]: It's not on me. Like if you just think about the whole thing, it's kind of like if your business was there, can he move in and all of a sudden create such a ruckus that you can't run your business anymore? No. That is not the essence of the whole point of giving somebody an entertainment license.
[Robert Delafano]: I understand. Well, if that's the case and you're feeling that strongly about it, especially with the police report, my advice to you is Number one, don't hesitate to call the police every time it happens.
[Kelly Catallo]: They're not coming.
[Robert Delafano]: OK, then I look like an idiot.
[Kelly Catallo]: They've got other things to do, Bob, and nothing but with the budget that they have. You know what I mean? They really have to take care of the safety of people.
[Robert Delafano]: But with what your beef with that is, is you call 9-1-1. Everything is reported. Kelly called for police disturbance, blah, blah, blah. They never showed up. Document it. It's in their file that your call came in and they didn't respond. That's number one. Number two, I advise you probably, and if you disagree, I don't please, or agree or whatever. Number two, take that police report, give a copy of it to Daria.
[Kelly Catallo]: Daria has a copy. I emailed her a copy when I asked her to be put on the agenda.
[Robert Delafano]: Okay, so Daria, you can take that copy of that police report and send it to the law department and see if we need to do anything. with an entertainment license? Does it have to go further than that? And if it does, what will give us the authority to tell Mrs. Murphy's, you can no longer have an entertainment license. Because if it's a legal issue, and it's something between two tenants, you know, Kelly says this, they say that, that's not, that's a... I have the recordings.
[Kelly Catallo]: Do you want the recordings?
[Robert Delafano]: Does that help you? It becomes a civil matter that we might not have the authority to suspend that license. And what will happen is the city will get sued for taking that license away of their right to have an entertainment license.
[Kelly Catallo]: But according to your website, you have the authority to request a sound plan. You do have the authority to do that according to your website.
[Robert Delafano]: OK, so we'll take that out of the website and Yeah, we can submit that.
[Kelly Catallo]: Can you send my letter that I gave you to the law department as well? Because I'm requesting that you do a review of the entertainment license. Yeah, yeah. Because if you want their opinion, you know what I mean, maybe that goes to them.
[Robert Delafano]: Absolutely. We're not against you.
[Kelly Catallo]: I just need peace and quiet to run our business.
[Robert Delafano]: And we hear you and we feel for you. It's just that I can't do anything that's going to get the city in trouble.
[Kelly Catallo]: I know. I don't want the city in trouble either.
[Robert Delafano]: No, no, it's just that. You hit it on the head. We've got to send this to the law department.
[Kelly Catallo]: Do we have a lawyer?
[Robert Delafano]: We do.
[Kelly Catallo]: Oh, we do. We do. Okay.
[Robert Delafano]: We have, uh, we still have paid the.
[SPEAKER_09]: Okay.
[Robert Delafano]: So we'll send it to them for their opinion. They can review your letter. They can review our rules. Right. And then they can kind of advise us on, on what action we can take or what action we cannot take. I think that's about it because I, I sense your frustration. I hear what you're saying. I just,
[Kelly Catallo]: It's been over a year, Alan. I just can't. I mean, what am I going to have to do? Shut down because of that? This is not fair.
[Robert Delafano]: We need to get a legal opinion on this to see what we can do about it. Absolutely. Yeah, absolutely. So, yeah, I think that's the fair thing to do. And then if they say it's You know, we can only do this, this and this. Then you've got to follow their rules with the lawyers, whatever the lawyers are saying.
[Kelly Catallo]: Yeah.
[Robert Delafano]: I'm not a lawyer. You're not a lawyer.
[Kelly Catallo]: He's not.
[Robert Delafano]: No. No. You know, if you've got to look at it, if it was turned around the other way and your business was disrupting their business and they complained and we went ahead and said, hey, Kelly, we're going to Pull your license because so-and-so is complaining. I'm a reasonable person.
[Kelly Catallo]: If they came to me and said they had a problem, I would have worked it out. I wouldn't be sitting there jacking it just to irritate people. We all have to coexist. We have a beautiful block down here. I think the restaurants bring some people down to poop it down and out there They're wonderful neighbors, you know, they may want him pastry, but he's a wonderful neighbor But then all of a sudden you get something they just keep Jackie and it's it's not dear. Yeah Did you even approve TV being outside? Did you even approve any noise being outside?
[Robert Delafano]: TV the devices as long as they within the footprints and of the establishment, yes. So I don't, yeah, I don't think it is in the footprint.
[Kelly Catallo]: That's not a patio, it's a parking space for a condominium. We can get into that legality. I can argue that one, but we won't today.
[Robert Delafano]: No, we won't today because with the liquor license application, that was out of the plans that we approved for liquor license where liquor can be served and stored in that area. was part of it, it was approved, right? It was inspected by the health department.
[Kelly Catallo]: Well, I asked the health department, because we've been dealing with the rat issue for four years now. And I said, how do you sign off on that when you're telling us that the whole thing is going to be paid to get rid of the rats?
[Robert Delafano]: I know the rat issue, because I've got a rat issue behind my house because of tough university. And we've complained and complained and complained. What are you going to do?
[Kelly Catallo]: No, they actually have a solution for it, but the solution can't No, no, the whole area needs to be paved. They have, you know, Janet up there, she's done a great job. They've been following up on it. You know what I mean? But right now they're serving food out there. And from what I understand from the health inspector that came to my office yesterday, there's a whole bunch of dead rats out there. So, because they're all going, what are they doing? They're eating food. What are you going to do? You know what I mean? At this point, I just need the noise.
[Robert Delafano]: Yeah. Kelly, thank you for coming in and bringing this to our attention. And we'll, like I said, we'll, take everything you said, your documents are submitted, we'll submit it to the legal department, and we'll get their opinion, and we'll see what we can do and what we can't do. Yeah, well, that's all we can do. We can get back to them once we've met the requirements, you know, of safety.
[Kelly Catallo]: No, I know, but a lot of cities to get an entertainment license, you have to submit a sound plan. And your licensing rules do say that the onus is on them to keep the sound in their space, and they're not doing that.
[Robert Delafano]: Right, but I don't think it's in the entertainment license application that they need a sound plan. If that's a concern, then that's something we should put in there.
[Kelly Catallo]: Well, it's in your entertainment rules. It's in your, well, maybe it should be, right? Because think about it. When you were working at the bank, can you imagine if next door all of a sudden they let a rock band go in there? Can you do your work?
[Daria Tejera]: Yeah.
[Kelly Catallo]: No. Okay. Okay. Thank you. Thank you for bringing to our attention.
[Robert Delafano]: Okay. Bye. Okay. So we'll get that. Yeah. We should submit the, uh, the rules, the entertainment rules too. The law department will look at it. It'll give a complete package. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. All right. That way there it's on the law department, not on us. And if we make the wrong decision, we're not getting the city in trouble. Right. It's, you know, because today they can come back and sue you. It's all you need is Ms. Murphy's coming back. I do $5,000, $10,000 a business a night, and it cost me, blah, blah, blah, $200,000 over the past month. Right, right. Those are my damages, yeah. All right. Let the experts deal with it. We'll wait for a legal opinion on that, and we'll go from there. So maybe in the things to think about, to-do lists, Maybe we'll put a soft blank thing. I also found an example in Alaska, the law department, they say they could put the language in there for the patient to write. Can you read it? It's an application, not application, but I've been able to roll the regulations, state and consent. You know what I'm saying?
[Daria Tejera]: No, I believe that. I'm not questioning that, but we're not experts. No, no, no, no. Like, it has to be through police. There has to be a process for it. I don't know what the rules say, but how much of those rules can we enforce? Exactly. Exactly. There's a lot of rules, there's a lot of non-ordinance, and a lot of it can't enforce. Most of the cities, they have rules and regulations, and they get challenged all the time, and they lose. They get challenged all the time, and they win. So, let's get it over with.
Now, our words cannot be important because we don't have the authority. Yeah, and we run into this all the time.
[Robert Delafano]: It's frustrating, but, like, what do you... Yeah, maybe you can make up a, you know, just a little file of what's going on, any document that we can send to the legal department or whatever, we'll keep it all together. Remember we had the porch? Yeah, I don't know what happened, but it happened during COVID. It was during COVID, and they had to move the band outside, and they would be playing till 11 at night, and all the music would run off the side of the buildings into all the apartments, and people were, remember, they were writing letters and calling the city. No, no, because it was all private property. And so even our part, the chief said there's nothing we can do about it, take it up with the owner or the landlord or the property manager.
[Daria Tejera]: And that's how we resolved it. It gets a little trippy because it's like, we can't just, again, it's a clear say, like we weren't, there was no police reports, there was no like evidence of them doing it. That's why we always tell people to call the police because you can't just say, oh, the police is not coming. Same thing with voices, when we have complaints from, You know, I'm not just gonna say it just because it's recorded, but you know, from who or whatever, but same thing with Oasis. We can't just hear every complaint and noise.
I feel like that's what we have the police department tell us, like, if they get it, because then it's like official, you know what I mean? It's not just like a hearsay sort of situation. It's not doubting, it's just, I feel like it's different when it's from the police department, then we know that this has been documented and this is what they've told us. And they've received a number of complaints. Exactly. Exactly. And that's why I told them.
[Robert Delafano]: Yeah, follow calls. Every time. Which makes a lot of sense. I mean, it's on record. It's there. Yeah. And then if she's got a legitimate enough complaint, they're going to say, I mean, they should just come to an agreement. Like, okay, I'll leave you in here on Thursday nights for training until 7 o'clock, 8 o'clock. Okay. No noise until 8 o'clock. They can warp it up or whatever. Right. There's nothing else around there. Right. Yeah, it's all business. It happens across the street, but that's really about it. But you just got to be reasonable with each other, but for some reason, they probably get into a little argument. Yeah, maybe it's not the best of them. But she is right. With realtors, it's near and dear to 11 at night. If they're working a buy or something. Yeah, it's different. It's very different. The hours are all over the place for the real estate office.
[SPEAKER_07]: Okay. Asian tastes. Asian tastes. Oh, thank you.
[Robert Delafano]: Thank you. Okay, so we did get a report from the city clerk a while back that three licensees and us were not current on their economic license. Yes. Which was supposed to be renewed as of the first of the year. At that point, you informed me, I put a call into Ralph, and told Ralph that blah, blah, blah, this is what's happening. City of Medford, we need to have food for liquor, and then he says, you gotta get on them, you gotta get them, get a parent, whatever's holding it up, get it squared away, and don't let them, you know, go on and go on. And as of this date, their license will be indefinitely suspended. And that's exactly what Daria did with the one, it was Asian Taste, I believe. Asian Taste, that's the name of it was.
[Daria Tejera]: Yeah, yeah.
[Robert Delafano]: The one that hasn't renewed, yeah. They haven't renewed the other two, compared to whatever they were.
[Daria Tejera]: And they were doing it, it's just they were missing like. Yeah, paperwork. Yeah, paperwork, which they both done.
[Robert Delafano]: So Daria did send them out a Asian Taste, a couple of emailed a notification that this needed to be done by today. And they needed to have documentation to us. Their license would be indefinitely suspended today. So obviously they didn't show up and they didn't turn in the paperwork.
[Daria Tejera]: And I have asked city clerks if there has been any movement. And this was like Monday. I think I checked. And now
[Robert Delafano]: We didn't send it registered mail on their behalf as a defense. So, Gary had suggested to me earlier that if they don't come today, maybe we should have the police hand deliver it, just in case their email is not being read. Do we know if they're your ongoing entity? Like, are they going out of business? Are they closing?
[Daria Tejera]: As far as I know, no, because I'm pretty sure they renewed for the renewal. Okay. That's why I was trying to remember, too, but I know that Blue Fuji was different. They were closed, but Asian Taste, no. Okay, so they're still operating as an entity. Yeah, as far as I know.
[Robert Delafano]: So, Mr. Chairman, I like your idea about can delivering. That was very, oh, I'm sorry. Yeah. My dear, I can't deliver. And then there's no question about the mailman only.
[Daria Tejera]: He only delivers four times a week or we don't get the mail until 7 p.m. at night. Yeah. And that stuff. Or who knows, like if somebody went away and they only have an email. Correct. Correct. I mean, remember one time in Shanghai when they went to China.
[Robert Delafano]: Yeah. Yeah. So. But no, I think it's a great idea, and I think, but the letter will say within 30 days, like how much time do we- We're gonna give them less. Okay. Because they were supposed to have it here today. Okay. They either blew us off, or they legitimately never did.
[Daria Tejera]: They didn't see it. They didn't see it, okay. So we're gonna maybe- Keep in mind, though, city clerks have reached out to them, too. Okay. It's like they sent a letter, so it's not like it's just us reaching out at city clerks to put it in. Okay, so the letter will say, A week? What can you understand?
[Robert Delafano]: A week from today, as of a week from today, with our legal language, for not appearing before us on the 24th,
[Daria Tejera]: I don't think we asked them to appear, but we told them to get it done before the 24th. Okay. Yeah. Okay. And say, if these documents are not submitted to the commission by midnight. Yeah, whatever that's for. Yeah.
[Robert Delafano]: your license is indefinitely suspended. Right. So the police don't have to surrender their license. Yeah. That's fine. Yeah. And then I'll see.
[Daria Tejera]: Yeah. Okay. Maybe tomorrow. Yeah, I'll try to do it today so they can, well, up to them when they can deliver. But yeah, do the letter today so this way it's done.
[Robert Delafano]: Good, good, good.
[Daria Tejera]: Yeah.
[Robert Delafano]: Okay. That'll take care of that. That's going to be one of the things I'm adding, and I think I did add to the to-do list, is the first of the year, within the first month, we'd like a letter from the, or a list from the city clerk's office of all promovituals licensed that have been approved before. And they're not going to know which one's 11 or not. So if they just give us a list.
[Daria Tejera]: Yeah, yeah, yeah. Well, that's what they they kind of did that. And obviously, I know which ones. So those were the only three. And there were the other two were working on it anyways. But just a little push. Yeah. So they got that done. Yeah, yeah, yeah. They're done. You don't mind, Ms. Murphy's. And boy, again, Yeah, yeah, yeah. The Smurfs and the Ford were together. It's the same moment. That's what I'm like thinking. It's the same one. But they were just like missing a couple things. So they got it done. Brian got it done quickly. Barry got it done quickly. And they're all set.
[Robert Delafano]: They just don't want to blow us off. And, you know, it could be this Asian taste. Maybe it's something that we have in their taxes, their unemployment stuff.
[Daria Tejera]: Yeah. Yeah. Because keep in mind, too, which I know is like a new thing, but the city clerk office just started kind of enforcing now. So it's like a goal, you know, discussion. It was kind of a thing maybe for a little bit. It's getting better. It's getting better. Hey, we all work hard to help each other out.
[Robert Delafano]: There's no other free business. I second. All in favor? Aye. Opposed? Hearing and seeing none. Meeting is adjourned. Thank you very much.
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