The Medford Liquor License Commission approved several one-day license applications for local community events and sports games. The commission also held a disciplinary hearing concerning a New Year's Eve disturbance at Great American Beer Hall, taking the matter under advisement.
[Robert Delafano]: The public meeting of the City of Method liquor license commission from March 18th, 2026 will come to order. We do have an agenda to follow. And the first thing on the agenda is to approve the minutes from the February 18th meeting, 2026. Thank you, Owen. And sent to us by Garriott. Thank you for the meeting notes. Does anybody have any comments or concerns on that last meeting? Ben, I know you weren't here. I wasn't here, that's the only comment. Yeah, yeah, it was a quick meeting. You know, you can see the adjourn time was 1.23, so we can solve business. I don't have any questions. I'd like to make a motion to accept the minutes of the February 18th, 2026 license submission meeting. All righty. Ben, you're seconding it? All those in favor? Aye. Aye. All those opposed? Hearing and seeing none, motion's been accepted. Next item on the agenda, Eventland Studios, who have two one-day licenses. Is that correct, Frank?
[Bryan MacAuslan]: Correct. Good afternoon, everyone. Just to preface, I have a request for a date change on that March 26th. We have a scheduling conflict, and I was hoping to change that to April 30th, if that's okay.
[Robert Delafano]: Yeah, I don't think that'd be a problem. We haven't even approved it yet, so yeah.
[Bryan MacAuslan]: I figured I'd get it out there just in case before we discussed it, you know.
[Robert Delafano]: So it's okay.
[Daria Tejera]: Yeah, that's fine. Yeah. So Brian, instead of first day, March 26, it would be April 30th.
[Bryan MacAuslan]: He said Thursday, April 30th. Yeah. We're going to push it back another month. Okay. But same time, six to eight, everything's the same. Yep.
[Daria Tejera]: Okay.
[Robert Delafano]: And yeah, tell us a little bit about what's going on in both these.
[Bryan MacAuslan]: Sure, I'll discuss the first one and I'll pass the second one off to Megan. So yeah, what we try to do locally is we run a local networking group and it's available to community members and business owners in Medford, Somerville, and the greater, I wouldn't say greater Boston area, but really Medford, Cambridge, Somerville. And we like to host these networking events. We have food, have slight catering. there and then we open up like the little bar area as well for beer and wine. And it's an opportunity for small business owners to kind of connect and network. So we do run a virtual networking group once a month as well, but usually every quarter or so we like to kind of get, you know, offer people to be able to meet in person as well.
[Robert Delafano]: Right. And the one for April 30th, is that going to be a little different?
[Bryan MacAuslan]: No, it's the same. Oh, I'm sorry. The date change, it's the same event. We're just looking for a little bit more time to kind of promote it and just get more people aware of it, you know. That was kind of the biggest thing. I don't even understand how it's mid-March right now. I don't. So, you know, we want this We wanted to pack a punch and affect and help people, you know? And so I think just having another month will give us a little bit more time to get more people in the room and, you know, make a bigger impact.
[Robert Delafano]: Okay, great. Very good. All right. So the first one is March 26 yeah, and then we're changing the other one to April 30th.
[Bryan MacAuslan]: No The March 26, which is the networking event. Yeah, that one is changing to April 30th. Oh Okay, the the other one which is an art event I'm just pull that up right now. Oops apologies. Yeah That one is for April 2nd. So we've gone out of order date-wise, but the April 2nd is still scheduled for April 2nd.
[Robert Delafano]: Okay. That's a little different.
[Bryan MacAuslan]: That one is a different event, yeah. Okay. Megan, do you mind taking a moment just to give them a little background on that one?
[MCM00000945_SPEAKER_44]: Sure, so we have another artist that's going to be exhibiting in April and he's hosting the opening reception the evening of the 2nd from 5 to 8 p.m. Usually we bring in about like 50 people, maybe a little bit more, but it's the same general format where we have the bar set up in our kitchenette, beer and wine, and I believe he's getting catering from Wegmans, but that's kind of the general just inviting the community to come in, meet the artist, and check out the exhibit.
[Robert Delafano]: Thank you.
[Unidentified]: Gentlemen, do you have any questions?
[Robert Delafano]: Oh, there it is. Yeah, we pulled them one day.
[Bryan MacAuslan]: We're looking to do a blanket license when I renewals up in June. which we've had some issues with many insurance companies, but with some guidance by another local organization here in Medford, I think we might be able to actually get that this time. So we're excited about that renewal possibility. Otherwise we just get the one days, you know, pending the approval just because it is expensive. And once we, we just want to make sure that we've covered all our bases with the commission prior to just pulling the insurance. Okay.
[MCM00001210_SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, I think it looks good. The same layout in both events, I take it. You have one that has, you know, we know the space layout and then the insurance is the same as we just discussed and Megan explained what the second one was. So I'm good with it and would make a motion to accept it. All right. So both, you want to do both of them? Yeah, so you guys don't have any questions. No, okay, all right, so I can go for Brian.
[Bryan MacAuslan]: No question.
[MCM00001210_SPEAKER_04]: So, I'll make a motion to accept the event them 1 day liquor license for. I'll just for the 1st, 1 on April 2nd. 26 from 5 to 8 PM. And then I'll make a motion to accept the second one day license. And that moved from March 26th to what date? April 30th. From March 26th to April 30th. So the event will be on April 30th, 2026. So I'll make a motion to accept that as well.
[Robert Delafano]: I second that motion. All those in favor? Aye. All those opposed? Hearing and saying none. The motion has been passed. You're all set, Brian.
[Bryan MacAuslan]: Thank you, everyone. You all have a great rest of your week. Good seeing you. Take care. Bye now.
[Unidentified]: We have
[MCM00001210_SPEAKER_04]: Boston. Yeah. Yeah. We'll sit anywhere. Jason? Jake.
[Robert Delafano]: Yes. He's on here. Oh, yeah. I stand on that. Okay. Jake, can you hear us? Can you tell us a little about what's going on?
[-tCCcF67nLU_SPEAKER_14]: I can. Good to see you all again. We're back. for another year. We are the league champs this year. We won last year. Very exciting. Congratulations.
[Robert Delafano]: Anytime you can beat New York's a good time, right?
[-tCCcF67nLU_SPEAKER_14]: It was a good time. It was a good time. Yeah, that was, it was, it was good. I mean, we beat everybody. So, team's good. We're retooling for this year. Similar format to last year, the six regular season licenses and then one playoff license, which could be on one of two days, depending upon whether we win our division or come in second in the division. So that's the floating one at the end for either late July or early August. The others are set starting in April, a couple in May, a couple in June, a couple in July. So that's the format again. We are setting it up the same. We have the beer garden as well as one side of the stands, that one section of the stands where the beers allowed different beer vendor this year, their tip certified, usual stuff. We think we've done pretty well on the police and security stuff. We're not aware of any incidents or no one's brought any to our attention. you know, we're, we're working with the council and with the board of health on our food permits, uh, which will be in the same kind of beer garden area as well. So pretty much the same as you've seen for the last several years from us. Um, and I'm happy to answer any questions.
[Robert Delafano]: Okay, great. Yeah. The last couple of years, you guys have been doing great. Uh, we don't have any issues, uh, never any issues with crowds, police, anything there, right. You're doing a good job. Like I'm sure that you do reach out to the police
[-tCCcF67nLU_SPEAKER_14]: Yes, we do whatever they need. Sometimes they require us to have a detail there. Sometimes they don't, but they're aware of it. They know that we take care of the expense for that. And there's a lot of trust going on. We've been at this now 6 years. So there, we have a good relationship with them and with the stadium staff to our mail commission, the mayor's office, the council, the city clerk. The whole team has been great to us and we try and return the favor.
[Robert Delafano]: You guys always do a good job. You do it up right. I especially like the way that you corral up the two sections of the stands. You know, it allows, you know, the people that are watching the game to, you know, have a beer if they want and also spend time with their family sitting there, you know, instead of just being corralled over into one small section.
[-tCCcF67nLU_SPEAKER_14]: It's been pretty successful. Our fans are a pretty respectful bunch. So we, you know, we kind of lightly police it ourselves and move people from time to time if they stray outside that cordoned off area on that one side of the stands. But otherwise, most people are really respectful.
[Robert Delafano]: It's great. Yeah, it seems to work. We've had no problems. Al and Ben? No, no, the chairman's right. It's been very good. And not to go off here, but last year you applied for seven. You didn't jinx yourself. So this year you're doing seven again. You know, it's not like the Sports Illustrated
[-tCCcF67nLU_SPEAKER_14]: I mean, we could end up with just the six, but we're pretty confident where we're reloaded. The other teams are also loading up to try and beat us. But, you know, we overcame the jinx last year and won it all. So I think if they were going to jinx us, it would have been last year.
[Robert Delafano]: Yeah. Yeah. And then coming before us with seven being you know, oh, we're going to go for seven rather than six. But no, I'm just kind of playing with you. But no, you guys run a good tight ship. We're very impressed with you guys. And it's been a great relationship through the years. So keep up the good work.
[-tCCcF67nLU_SPEAKER_14]: Thank you. I appreciate it.
[MCM00001210_SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, excellent. I just have a question. So how many people are on average coming to these games?
[-tCCcF67nLU_SPEAKER_14]: So a little bit more every year, but it's still pretty mild. So it comes up, and especially when you win a championship and you sign some marquee players, you expect it to inch up a little bit. So by the New York game, we'll bring a few more fans. We could push as many as 800. We never max out. I would love to max out, but we've never done that. I think depending upon weather and the time of day, we could be anywhere from 400 to 800. We're usually right in that sweet spot of 500 to 600 or so.
[MCM00001210_SPEAKER_04]: yeah well that's good i mean that's good i saw the the you know the amount of people from 600 up to a thousand so i was curious um no but we have had no issues in um you know for many of like none of the city departments have you know had any issues that we know of and that's i think that's a good thing to keep um keep that way and you guys are means you're doing a good job but just for Traffic management, parking to mess and things like that, like we've seen from other events, which has nothing to do with you, but just if your event gets bigger, it's something to just keep a good eye on.
[-tCCcF67nLU_SPEAKER_14]: We work closely with John Curley and his team on the parking lot stuff and want to manage that pretty well. Everyone's been taking care of it. Anecdotally, I'm the attorney for the town of Foxborough and just finished a month and a half of negotiations around the World Cup security. Oh, I think I know. Yeah. So, you know, we're we're just a tiny, tiny, tiny piece, but we take it seriously because we know I know in particular that cities and towns take their security really seriously. So it's front of mind for me at all times.
[MCM00001210_SPEAKER_04]: Yeah. Well, All right, that's reassuring. There's some other events you might need to introduce you to. But no, that sounds good. And I hope it's a successful year and, you know, to keep doing what you're doing, as Al said. It sounds great. I have no questions. I'm good with it.
[Robert Delafano]: All right, do any of the gentlemen want to make a motion? We can do all seven at once. Yeah, we'll do all seven at once. I motion to accept a one-day license for Boston Glory for the seven one-day licenses for Boston Glory for the following dates, April 25, 2026, May 2, 2026, May 24, 2026, June 5,
[Allan Martorana]: 5-20-26, June 20-20-26, July 18-20-26, July 25-20-26.
[Robert Delafano]: I believe that's all.
[-tCCcF67nLU_SPEAKER_14]: The only thing I'd add to that is that if for some reason we're the later, the August date, I'll be sure to notify you as soon as we know so that that July, that last July date tips over into that August date.
[Allan Martorana]: For the rain day, yeah. And a rain gate of August 8, 2026. Right.
[MCM00001210_SPEAKER_04]: So I'll second the motion made by Commissioner. All right. All those in favor.
[Robert Delafano]: Aye. All those opposed. Hearing and seeing none, the ayes have it. Motion has been passed. You're all set, Jay.
[-tCCcF67nLU_SPEAKER_14]: All right. Thank you so much. And thank you, Daria. Good luck, Jay. Good luck. Good luck this year.
[Robert Delafano]: Thank you. Yeah, getting back to back.
[MCM00001210_SPEAKER_04]: I've got to get to one of those games. Have either of you been? No.
[Robert Delafano]: Okay. Next, we've got... The Brewing. Yeah, yeah. Hello, how are you doing? We see you again. Yes, I've got a few of them today.
[Allan Martorana]: Sorry, Dario, for my left-hand centre.
[Nick Bolitho]: We're very understanding and not stabbing me. So we're doing the... last year we sculpted in the rooms, bikes and beats which were a Saturday afternoon in the Medford Square sort of a pop-up that was created. And so last year we did four of them I believe and then this year we've been a bit excited and so we've been looking at things to 11 of them and then basically every Saturday from June the 6th to August the 22nd and basically exactly the same format again basically free concert for anyone And then we'll have a food truck as well. And then the beer tent as well.
[Robert Delafano]: So much for that. I don't know if I can come back and want to do even more.
[Nick Bolitho]: We broke even. It was an interesting experiment. Again, it's my revenge world, and Arlington do their big thing, the Jason Russell houses. So, it's a big... I'm trying to lighten things up a little bit in Medford. Some of the things are a bit tricky, like water potties and all that sort of stuff, but we worked it out last year, just about. It's just a nice sort of community thing to do. Yeah, with nothing else to do, it can promote your business in the city or wherever it is. Yeah, it doesn't hurt and it's quite fun.
I think this year the city's getting a big tent as well. There'll be some shade this year as well. It should be even warmer. That sounds great. Okay, does anyone have any questions?
[Robert Delafano]: I'm trying to total up to 13. That explains it. The music festival and the rendezvous. So we'll do the 11 and 1 and then we'll separate. So we'll do the Pop-Up Park entrance, right? Yeah. Okay. Yeah. I don't know if anyone has any questions about the Pop-Up Park.
[MCM00001210_SPEAKER_04]: Papa Park is in the parking lot behind the corporate show. Yeah, you know that little Zone. Yeah, it's right across senior center. Yeah. Yeah, I know. I know they're there. Yeah So that's where they're gonna put the tent.
[Nick Bolitho]: That's a good idea. Yeah, so that was one big thing that we should have said this There's not a lot of shade.
[MCM00001210_SPEAKER_04]: So that's good. Yeah, so I'm good with that. I can make the motion on the pop-up, Medford Square pop-up events.
[Robert Delafano]: For the 11 one days?
[MCM00001210_SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, I'll say it. So I'll make a motion to accept the one day licenses for Medford Brewing Company for the community events on the following dates. Saturday, June 6th. Saturday, June 13th. Saturday, June 20th. Saturday, June 27th. Saturday, July 11th. Saturday, July 18th. Saturday, July 25th. Saturday, August 1st. Saturday, August 8th. Saturday, August 15th. And Saturday, August 22nd at Whippership Pop-Up Park. Very good.
[Robert Delafano]: Thank you, Ben. I second the motion. Okay. All those in favor? Aye. All those opposed? Aye. Hearing and seeing none, the ayes have it. Let's move on to our next one. The music festival event on Sunday, September 20th.
[Nick Bolitho]: Yeah, it's a music festival. It's an annual, again another free music event, I think Ross Roblar put it on, who we've been doing it for many years. Is it the Condon Show or the Hatch Show? I forget the name of it. Well, it was the Follies Market. And again, so we've done it for the last few years with them. Same thing, we also put out an album called Behind These Point Signs. Obviously, all our staff are TIP certified. And it's sort of basically a one-day free music festival.
[Robert Delafano]: And you've been doing a good job with that. We've got a few of them there, and I think you've got time pretty much to ask. You know, what you're doing there and what we expect. So, yeah, I don't have a problem with it, Alan. Kelvin, any questions on that? Just the date, is it September 20th or September? Is it September 20th is the date on that?
[Allan Martorana]: That one's September 20th is what we have. I just wanted to make sure, because I've seen the application, it says September 20th. Okay, yeah, got it. My bad, sorry, I'm going to swap this. And I have my glasses on, too. It's the other one that has the two gates. Okay. All right, so.
[MCM00001210_SPEAKER_04]: Well, here I can take this. So I will make a motion to accept the one day license for the music, for Medford Brewing for the music festival event for Saturday, September 20th from noon to 6 p.m. at Condon Shell. Sunday. September, September 20th? Did I say Saturday? Sorry. Sunday, September 20th, 12 to 6 p.m. at the Condon Shell.
[Allan Martorana]: Great. Thanks, Ben.
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[Daria Tejera]: Those police presence anyways, because of all the closures and everything. Yeah, we've had ambulance here too, just in case. Yeah, yeah. So it's two days. Yeah, they've got a, there's a certificate, I think it's the 26th of Sunday.
[Nick Bolitho]: It's gonna look like it. No, it says Friday and Saturday. Yeah, so we normally do... Saturday. It is, yeah, Friday and Saturday. We normally actually just, I'm putting the 25th just in case we do it, but on the 25th they do a, sometimes they basically ask us to have a little beer tent, and that's actually, is it a pool room? No, that is not a pool room. Where they basically have sort of mini runs and things. They have a, I think a Sunni astronaut was supposed to run which was a lounge room in the space station somewhere. And then the nurses, I suppose, almost had a little charity event for women on the Sunday, so on the actual race itself, where we basically, it's a donation, we're supposed to sponsor it. So again, it's a section of section.
[MCM00001210_SPEAKER_04]: In the parking lot there? Yeah. So I'm good with that. I could wrap it up here for Nick. Yeah, no, I'm fine with that. It's a great event.
[Robert Delafano]: The only thing is you got to get out early because all the runs get sold.
[Nick Bolitho]: And they usually run past my rows and I get shut off.
[MCM00001210_SPEAKER_04]: Well, you can run, so you can just run right over here. Now that you're running, you can just run. So, all right, so I'm going to make a motion to accept the 1 day license for member brewing for the run Medford community event. The following dates, Friday, September 25th. And Saturday, September 26 Friday 25th is at home stadium and Saturday, September 26 is at Medford City Hall. Thanks. I second the motion.
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[Daria Tejera]: No, I'll say yes.
[Nick Bolitho]: So basically a bit of an update on some of the stuff things we've been doing. I don't know if you've heard from the agency yet from us. We started about a year and a bit ago the applications for basically our farms distilling permit and our farmers winery permit. The distilling permit basically the reality is we I don't really want to make it much higher up, but I'm told it's best to do them both at once. And then the wine referment is actually more so we can make our own hard cider. It's a strange, because it's fruit fermentation versus grain fermentation. So right now we hold the federal parameter, and we have the state parameter for distilling. And I'm waiting back, I believe they've accepted everything, just waiting back for the certificate now on the winery as well. So what our plans are, obviously, once we get those back, then we need to have our other meeting with you. discuss the whole thing. My general plan is for off-site sales, probably for actually the hard alcohol. I don't want to sell, I have very little desire that you have none to actually sell any just straight alcohol or gin, vodka, whiskeys because it's not my clientele. and I don't need a headache. Yeah, so you're not looking for a firing license from us. Well, we probably will, but let me get on to that. So what I do want to do is we'll be then making some pre-mixed things. So it might be a fancy gin and tonic pre-mixed using our basically our keg breaker system. So we actually pre-mixed them all so it's already, we know exactly what the percentage force we're actually serving are going to be. The idea is to basically have two mixed cocktails at any time. I would like to in the summer, once you get on those slushy machines and then do frozen margaritas, like New Orleans things coming through again.
But then we'll also, with the own labelling, we'll actually be contracting, so we're not actually going to do any of the distilling in-house, apart from a micro amount that might be added to, let's say, a quarter or something, as an additive on top for an agreement with one of our peers. But we'll probably also be selling in liquor stores, Medford Rum, Medford vodka, gin, whiskey, Again, only mix freshly consumed on site. The wine side of it, that again is to a hard cider primarily, which again is what we wanted to do from the offset, but because of interesting laws for different customers, which you can't. But then we will also be, probably then start serving wine in the distillery and brewery by the glass, which will also, we won't be fermenting in glass because I am actually blind. But the idea being then, again, so people are going to get a glass of wine as well, potentially, or in basically a teapot.
[Robert Delafano]: license the growing of the actual growing of distilling in the city that you're in. license, correct? Or did they really care what city you're doing on? Did they just issue you the license? Or did this... Well, the city doesn't have to get involved unless you're going to be quarreling now.
[Nick Bolitho]: But... Yeah, I don't think so. I mean, as soon as they've notified you, they... Because we hold this... The ABCC gave us the distilling one already. So I can't really have it. We haven't done anything with it yet. And then, so I'm guessing they don't reach out to you?
[Daria Tejera]: No, they don't. Because it's not, it's, they only get involved when it's like us and them working together. Like how you guys, for your brewery. But other than that, we wouldn't, they don't get involved.
[Robert Delafano]: Like pouring. We get involved when they're asking for pouring lessons.
[Nick Bolitho]: Yeah, so I believe once you get the state winery one, then we then have to basically come with a few to get to about a pouring firm. There's a little strange thing where we've got to go to get a commingling pouring firm, which was some... Can you combine them all? Well, that is the right line. Yes, so there's a variance we can get, and I think it's through the ABCC. once we've got these other pokes going, because right now, technically, the only sample of whisky that we haven't made in the basement, that's what they've got. Yeah, we still have a bit to put, so there it is. But yeah, so I think once we have basically all the other And then we've got to prepare these things. And I don't know when we... I submit everything to you. So no, we'll have to do the certified mail to 300 people around the area, all our public hearings. I'm pretty sure we'll get there.
So we've already done the church and school records. That we had to do for the actual permit to do it. But we haven't done the spread yet. We have to do the whole answer in the paper.
[Daria Tejera]: I mean, I feel like we should wait till what ABCC says too, because maybe when we combine it, because you're not, it wouldn't be a new license, because if you already have an existing, establishment, right? You wouldn't be able to get a new license for that establishment. So I feel like they might have us do like a different process. You know what I mean? So I'm almost curious what they will tell us. I think some of this technical will pull Ralph in on it anyways.
[Robert Delafano]: Yeah, yeah, we're going to have to.
[MCM00001210_SPEAKER_04]: I think last time you sent the letters out, like there was one extra step that we were unsure if it was necessary. Do you remember this? And it was like, oh, did we just, for lack of a better word, cost, did Nick spend a couple of grand? Oh, no, no, no. Yeah, yeah, yeah. It's a good question. So I would maybe just make sure. No. Yeah, I remember that.
[Nick Bolitho]: I'm very keen to know right away, three hundred percent.
[Daria Tejera]: Yeah, yeah, yeah. Answer the business. Yeah. They did tell Nick a couple of times, and then I'm like, Nick, what did you do? Like, I know that's my own.
[MCM00001210_SPEAKER_04]: But which hey I run a business to sometimes it happens just move on but um so just gonna like to get my mind so you want to get the Brewing license or the farmers brewing license or the distiller or the hard alcohol? Oh Yeah. As well as a farmer's brewing for the, not the spirits, but for to make the hard seltzer, which is basically like wine. Yeah. And you could make wine, but you're not, you're choosing, you know, whatever you probably choose not to make the wine, unless you get a passion for wanting to make wine and would need to have something. So you'll, you'll be able to, so some people go to the bar and get a mixed drink and a hard seltzer.
[Nick Bolitho]: or a wine, where does the wine come from? I'm probably going to contract with another winery.
[MCM00001210_SPEAKER_04]: So you get it from somewhere else and then on top of that what they'll allow you to do is sell the hard alcohol product and the hard seltzer product in stores? Yes.
[Nick Bolitho]: Do you already sell the beer products in stores? We do, but we don't. But yes. You could, but you don't. Yeah, we do very, very little. We do a couple of local stores, but yes. So I believe right now, if we made it, we have the license now, we can sell the hard alcohol in stores. Okay, because of the federal, but not for it. We can't do anything in the stores. We have to talk to you about that, yeah. I mean it sounds good to me and you know like you're expanding the business and the offering and you know can be more yeah can serve more you know yeah I mean it's a lot of it there's a lot more to see if it's make more money so that's good yeah I mean we can do private weddings and things I've had to turn down so many private events, because they say, well, do you sell wine? No. We don't like beer.
[Robert Delafano]: You came to the wrong place, Matt. Yeah. Right. Yeah. So, well, you can, you can retail it, too, out of your establishment, once you have it. I'm wondering if you, because you're not going to be forming it, so we can still retail it, even if you don't get a forming license, you can still retail it out of your existing location and have an ad for it. Well, the wine, particularly the hard cider and the alcohol, where they grew it, but they don't sell it. Somebody just buy a four-pack or a six-pack or however you sell it back, you can do that. And you can wholesale it as well. That's the way I've understood it.
[Nick Bolitho]: Yes, I believe I think I'm that's why just with the approval, you can do that.
[MCM00001210_SPEAKER_04]: But then, but what he wants to do is offer it to the, you know, so you can sit out the patio and have all that. Then you have a license. Yeah, us and then.
[Robert Delafano]: I mean, technically he's doing the same thing as serving, but he's not serving the same product. alcohol versus malt, or wine versus malt. But I don't see an issue there. Either way, I don't see an issue. I mean, he never has any issues there, you know, with any kind of, no police actions, no disturbances.
[Allan Martorana]: But to your point, I think we raised a good point where we should see how the director, the executive director of ABCC, what he recommends and the guidance he can give us, because it is such a unique thing.
[Robert Delafano]: So I guess baby steps. We'll say keep going forward with all your paperwork and then we'll... I'm sure eventually some people will hear from Andy Sincere and then you'll be back before us with the fine tuning parts.
[Nick Bolitho]: Yeah, because there are other brewers doing basically the very same thing now. But yeah, I'll keep you in the loop for where we go.
[MCM00001210_SPEAKER_04]: Thank you. Thank you for asking. We want Ned for brewing and we want you guys at the Encore. We should do a check on some of these, wouldn't I just
[Nick Bolitho]: So if we got $13,000, then... $780,000. Yep. So we got $13,000, right? Yeah. Have you spent your last $13,000? Yeah, I have.
[Allan Martorana]: Yeah, $60 a piece, right? Yeah. City of Medford.
[Unidentified]: Let's not start rumours, Nick. That's the team. We have Officer Smith with us today. Yeah. Oh, I see him. Yeah. Okay.
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[John Shea]: I was tidy last time. I thought I was fairly tidy last time. I did have to pull my car seat up.
[Allan Martorana]: You don't have a lot of fun then. I wonder if it's not enough.
[Unidentified]: All people at once. It's not that old. No, it's not that old. Get us out of it. Just don't kill it.
[Robert Delafano]: Yeah, yeah, yeah. How are you? I'm very good, thank you. I'll do one by myself. Same old, same old. Wait, let me do it again. There you go. Let's get the public hearing of the City of Medford Liquor License Commission for March 18, 2026. Then we'll come to order. Before we get started, I'd just like to introduce the members of the Medford City License Commission. My name is Robert Pallopano. I'm the chair commissioner for the City of Medford License Commission. I'm joined by my fellow commissioners, Alan Maturana, and Donald Sullivan Pierce. And the superstar of the team is Daria Tahara. She's our secretary, which does all the work and we get all the credit. So that's the team. And what I'm going to do first is just read the hand-delivered notice that was delivered by the Metropolitan Police Department on March 12th, 2026.
Great American Beer Hall. Attention, Brian Zappa. Manager on record, 142, Mr. Gavmethod, mass 02155. Regarding alcohol beverages license 07514-RS0680. 142, Mr. Gavmethod, mass 02155. Notice of hearing. We have Ryan's app. On March 18, 2026 at 125 p.m., the Methadone License Commission will hold a hearing pursuant to General Law 138, Section 23, to dismiss the alcoholic beverages licensed at 1.2 Mystic Ave, Methadone, Mass. The hearing will be held in room 207, second floor. uh, Medford City Hall, 85 George Chassett Drive. The hearing will concern the report submitted to the commission by the Medford Police Department, copies of which are included, uh, copies of which are enclosed regarding alleged possible over-serving disturbance. You may attend this hearing and will be represented by counsel at your own expense if you wish. These allegations, if proven, may constitute a violation of Mass General Law, Chapter 138-69, Sailor Delivery to Intoxicated Persons.
constitute grounds for disciplinary action, including a written warning, suspension, and levitation of your license. If you have any questions, please contact Gary at the Harrods, 781-393-2419. Sincerely, Robert O'Connell, Applied Justice Commission Chair, CC to Lieutenant Rory Lockowitz. That's the... notification that you folks received on May 12th. And the two folks present for Great American Beer Hall.
[Councilor Zac Bears]: Brian's Arthur.
[Robert Delafano]: John Jay. John Jay. Okay. And is there anyone else on the Zoom or anything that's going to be? No, just us. Okay. And Police. Patrick Smith, Metro Police. Patrick Smith, Metro Police. Okay, very good. What I'm going to do is just swear in all parties. If you'd raise your right hand, you swear to tell the truth, the whole truth, nothing but the truth.
[Allan Martorana]: I do.
[Robert Delafano]: I do. I do. Okay, very good. Let's see. Okay, Patrick, if you want, you can read the alleged violation.
[Patrick Smith]: My officer Patrick Smith from a sport agent, the city of Medford liquor license and board in response to Metro Police report 2600003. Lieutenant Rory Lockwood is asking to review and follow up with management of the Great American Beer Hall. So this is a report written by Officer Michael Sunday, and it was written on January 1st, 2026. This is essentially a summary of his report. At approximately 45 minutes past midnight on Thursday, January 1st, that's supposed to say 2026, not 2025, the Met Police received an emergency 911 call for a physical fight inside the Great American Gale Hall. While responding, officers learned the fight involved upwards of 20 individuals. At that point, all Medford police officers on duty were dispatched to the Great American Beer Hall. Additionally, mutual aid was requested from the Massachusetts State Police and Tufts University Police. The following information was gathered from Officer Sunday's report, as well as speaking with responding officers. As officers arrived on scene, approximately 75 to 100 individuals were observed in the parking lot. There was no active fight transpiring on the property. Upon speaking with security, we learned a physical fight occurred inside the establishment and the involved parties were escorted by security outside. Friends of the involved parties then exited and a second physical fight transpired in the parking lot by Mr. Gap. Security explained the involved parties and their friends were no longer permitted on the property and asked for assistance in dispersing the crowd. While assisting security, the following observations were made by multiple officers. beer cans, hard seltzer cans, and liquor nips were strewn about the parking lot. The majority of the patrons had varying levels of intoxication. Officer Clementi's first observations upon arrival was a male vomiting in the parking lot. While on scene officers learned a female was vomiting inside the restroom, EMS was requested due to the female's condition. She would ultimately refuse transportation to the hospital and was assisted from the scene by friends. Officers estimated there was over 250 patrons still inside the Great American Bail Hall. Officers questioned the age of these individuals as numerous of these patrons appeared under the age of 21. As the crowd dwindled, officers began to clear. Two Medford police officers were instructed by a patrol supervisor to remain at the Great American Bail Hall until closing, which was approximately 2 a.m. So that was essentially the summary. This is my follow-up on Tuesday, January 6, 2026, I traveled to the Great American Beer Hall and spoke with the owner, Mr. Brian Zatha. I learned for New Year's Eve, the Great American Beer Hall used Eventbrite to promote the event. A check of their website lists the event as the Great American Countdown, New Year's Eve Dash. A band called Elephant in the Room would be performing at 10 p.m. According to Mr. Zatha, Eventbrite sold approximately 1,150 tickets on their website.
General admission tickets were sold for $10 and the VIP experience was $30. The VIP consisted of access to the mezzanine and pizza. The event was supported by five security officers. Two of the security officers were in-house and three were hired by an outside vendor. Security assisted in managing the front door of the beer hall. Upon entering, IDs were checked, wristbands were provided to individuals over the age of 21. and X was written on the hand of patrons under the age of 21. I learned this was an 18 plus event. Since the Bayer Hall occupancy is 1,026, a tally counter was used at the door. According to Mrs. Zather, only 950 patrons were allowed inside at one time. Mrs. Zather and I spoke about the fight, and I asked to review camera footage. Due to the lowered lighting conditions inside the Bayer Hall at that time, the footage appeared black and white. The only footage from the fight is at a distance, and it is not clear. Additionally, the majority of the fight happens out of the camera's view. After viewing the footage, I determined the following. One male approached another male, and a physical altercation occurs by the front door. Within 45 seconds, security has separated the parties and escorted them outside. According to Mrs. Zather, friends of the involved parties then exit the beer hall. A second fight occurs between multiple people in the parking lot in the area of Mystic Ave. The beer hall does not have exterior cameras, therefore, footage is not available of the second fight. Prior to traveling to the beer hall, I obtained the 911 tapes from that night. I played the audio tape from Mrs. Zather, and he confirmed the calling party to be a member of the security team. On the 9-1-1 tape, the security officer explains a fight transpired inside the Bay Hall and the involved bodies were escorted outside. An unruly crowd of approximately 20 individuals formed outside and security was requested. assistance to disperse the group. It is believed the dispatcher interpreted the security officer as requesting assistance for 20 involved people fighting. So it's misconstrued there. So I heard the tape. It sounds like there's 20 people outside that just need to be dispersed, not 20 people fighting. They got sent out to our guys, and then that's why we call it mutual aid, because we thought there were 20 people. But it's on our dispatch to send them out that way. That's the mistake there on our side.
I thank Mr. Zartha for his assistance with my investigation. He was fully cooperative and provided all requested information. So this is my conclusion now. After reading the police report, listening to the 911 tapes, and speaking with the Medford police officers, Mr. Zartha had determined the following. On New Year's Eve, the Great American Beer Hall had a ticketed 18 plus event. More tickets were sold than the occupancy for the building. According to Mr. Zartha, occupancy was limited at the door to approximately 95% or 950 patrons.
Five security officers, two in-house and three were hired, were on duty to manage the crowd. No Method police officers, Method firefighters, or EMS were hired for the event. At approximately 40 minutes past midnight, a physical fight occurred inside the beer hall. Security breaks up the fight and ejects the involved bodies. An unruly group forms in the parking lot and security dials 911 for assistance in dispersing the group. While police are responding, a second fight occurs outside the parking lot. By the time the police arrived, the fight is over. Method police remained on scene. So closing, based on the totality of the circumstance, I do not feel a violation of 138 occurred on New Year's Eve, New Year's Day at the Deer Hall. Security acted appropriately by separating the combatants inside and ejecting them from the event. It is believed security dialed 911 for assistance to disperse the crowd prior to the second fight occurring in the parking lot. I have no evidence of over-serving or underage consumption on the night in question. In closing, I'll be forwarding this report to the City of Medford Vicar Licensing Commission for review and determinant if best practices were utilized for the event of this size. Respectfully submitted, Officer Patrick Smolen.
[Allan Martorana]: Thank you. Brian, would you care to comment?
[Councilor Zac Bears]: Yeah, I do have one regret of the night. The night before Thanksgiving, we had a police detail there. And I think that would have really helped the outside. Uh, our guys do a great job inside. Um, it's what happens outside and it just takes a few people to cause that. So we didn't do it. Um, we're getting more popular, which is a good thing. And we're getting sales are growing, which is great. Um, pretty much doubled from last year. And this was definitely a growing pain and lesson learned from that night. Uh, I wish we didn't have to call the police, but. I tell the guys, you know, when in doubt, definitely make that phone call instead of trying to handle ourselves if something bad happens and then we're really screwed. So that's why the phone call was made.
[John Shea]: Okay. How about you? Pretty much same takeaway. Probably next, this year, I'd probably do a detail call. We actually did live boxing. We had detail call. So anytime we have a large event, we're going to go down that.
[Robert Delafano]: Besides the extra security, what else did you learn from that?
[Councilor Zac Bears]: Sell less tickets online because, you know, turning people away at the door isn't great.
[Robert Delafano]: That must have been ugly. I mean, you sold 1,150 and then you're trying to, you know, keep the count under 1,000 inside. You must have had a lot of unhappy individuals who paid and What do you mean I can't go in?
[Councilor Zac Bears]: Yeah, so yeah, that was that must have been a hard lesson to it was We had the event in June Gap Fest and we didn't sell nearly as many tickets as we thought of that Yeah, and it was kind of a bust Yeah Yeah, it was it was awesome.
[Robert Delafano]: Yeah.
[Councilor Zac Bears]: Yeah, so again, yeah, no great point lesson learned I hate I hate not providing a great experience. It is nice to grow the business, but these are definitely some growing pains that we're going through. But I feel as a whole, we take them very, very seriously and make adjustments.
[Robert Delafano]: Okay. Dr. Smith, would you have anything to counter to that?
[Patrick Smith]: This is just my personal opinion. I think when you have crowds of that size, you always err on the side of caution. I can't recommend anything. I'm not the chief of police by any means. I'm at the bottom of that. But this is just my experience of 14 years saying that when you have that many people and young people at that, you are going to run into problems. That's just the nature of the business. Oh, you could have 1,000 people that go to Hickey Park tomorrow, and I'm probably going to have to go down there for something. But I'm not a business owner. I'm not saying it just because I'm a police officer.
safety is paramount.
[Robert Delafano]: No, I think you're right. I think that's the takeaway from all of this, is that five people is not going to be able to effectively cross control 1,100 people. But you guys know that. I'm sure you sat after the event happened, you probably sat down and said, OK, how do we make this a better event and not create the same mistakes all over again? I know you two are very smart, so I'm sure you went through do you like with the younger kids?
[Allan Martorana]: rather than the older kids? Like I'm not sure.
[Councilor Zac Bears]: St. Patrick's Day was great. It was like 30 plus almost. It was really tame. So it's really the night before Thanksgiving and New Year's Eve, they bring out the younger generation.
[Patrick Smith]: And that goes for everybody too. There's been a pocket place down in a couple other establishments that we have in the city.
[Robert Delafano]: And they've learned their lesson in the past, and they probably have police details for those. Yeah, a couple of those places that got popular. Yeah. Yeah.
[MCM00001210_SPEAKER_04]: Um, yeah, well, just a couple of questions. Do you, is there like a ratio between the crowd size and the amount of security that you should have at an event?
[Councilor Zac Bears]: Like, so we do it by placement in the building. So it's like, we're a big open space. So it's like, we have like two upstairs, one on each side and one room and the floor. And so a fight occurred right in the middle of it. Our guy that was roaming picked it up within 45 seconds.
[MCM00001210_SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, which seems good. Yeah. I'm just really, I'm just curious. Yeah.
[Councilor Zac Bears]: And then we add something else when the outside opens. This was obviously the weather's not conducive. Right.
[MCM00001210_SPEAKER_04]: But usually like for that size crowd, it would be five security.
[Councilor Zac Bears]: Five security and then I would get a police detail for the outside. So I'd add.
[MCM00001210_SPEAKER_04]: Yeah.
[Councilor Zac Bears]: Yeah.
[MCM00001210_SPEAKER_04]: No, I mean, I appreciate you. saying right away, you know, you should have had, you would have had a police detail, because I mean, that does seem like, even we see that with half the size of that event, just having, you know, a third the size of that event, I mean, really, a three-person event, most of the time, police detail. So that seems like that was needed. And then, of course, that's the night where there's fights. Sure, yeah.
[Robert Delafano]: You know, everywhere. I think we always used to say if it was over 250 people, you should reach out to the chief for details necessary. So, four or five times, that number, you know.
[MCM00001210_SPEAKER_04]: When we do them in construction, I know it's different hours, but it's like, you have to do them all the time, and you just gotta do them, you know. Anyway, so, I think, it seems like you know that now, but even for much smaller events, and then especially the fight, you know, like the fight night events, I mean, by people who, you're not boxing, you know. Yeah, yeah. Like the night before they get giving, I mean. We did have a detail cop and I before Thanksgiving, yeah, I think that kind of just sets the stage Yeah mentally. Yeah Yeah, yeah, they see police and they're better Yeah, you know, and then the other question is, have you guys considered ever having security cameras outside?
[Councilor Zac Bears]: Um, we can go both ways with cars and attorneys.
[MCM00001210_SPEAKER_04]: Uh, yeah, that's, I'm just curious because sometimes the, you know, I mean, every time it starts in here, then there's, there's a, there's a blank spot for us to try to decipher. Oh, What happened, you know, and it's not, I'm not, I'm just curious, actually, I'm just wondering. Um, so maybe that's a legal question, but you know, sometimes that shows that, Hey, everything was fine. You know, you guys got them out and then they get in a fight in the parking lot and it's like, well, can you, you know, you're, you're right. You have inside security and outside it's harder to control. And then we'd be able to see that and say, oh, okay. You know?
We understand anyway. So those are just some, those are some thoughts. And then another question, is it common practice? This is again, just something like to sell out a little higher than you expect because people end up not. Yeah.
[John Shea]: So I'd say what, 10 or 15% of tickets sold don't have the people never arrive. They just don't show up.
[Councilor Zac Bears]: Yeah. And then it's staggered for times. People come in late, people come early, people leave.
[MCM00001210_SPEAKER_04]: So some, yeah.
[Councilor Zac Bears]: Yeah, there's a lot of like coming and going.
[MCM00001210_SPEAKER_04]: That's a conscious decision to sort of do that. It's a gym membership type of scenario, right?
[Councilor Zac Bears]: Yeah. Yeah. And then we don't, we kind of, we're hard at like 950, 900 to 950 is, you know, where we want to be all night.
[John Shea]: But I'd say overall, most of our events, the amount of tickets we sell, you don't actually get that many people there. Yeah. Like, you know, they went to a different party or a million things came up. Couldn't get a babysitter.
[MCM00001210_SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, absolutely. There's a rule there of something. I mean, you throw a party at your house and you invite 30 people and probably 25 would show up. That's more like 20, right?
[Unidentified]: That's what happens.
[MCM00001210_SPEAKER_04]: Okay. I don't know. I think it was a good summary. Those were my questions. You covered it, Alan? Yeah. No, I covered it. I'm good.
[Robert Delafano]: The police report, thank you. And you guys sort of know what you got to do next time. I'm okay. I don't have any other questions. I just have one question. You just mentioned like ads, attorneys, that kind of one. Is it that people are feeling as though their privacy is being invaded if you have cameras?
[Councilor Zac Bears]: No, they can work against you if you get sued. This is what our attorney told us. Yeah, if someone gets in their car and they leave, well, you're better off not having that on.
[Robert Delafano]: Yeah, I mean, it can also work to help you too.
[Daria Tejera]: Yeah, but we were told by the state that if they're somebody like, for example, gets a DUI right coming from your place. Yeah. Regardless, it's gonna go back to you.
[Councilor Zac Bears]: Yeah. So it's the last it's the last like drink rule they ask anyone sometimes it's not even true. And it doesn't really do you any favors to go through and go, well, this guy left at 652. And that kind of opens up Pandora's box for you. just what we got as advice from our liberalized attorney.
[Allan Martorana]: Yeah. I kind of don't think it was good advice.
[Daria Tejera]: Yeah. ABCC legit told us that regardless, you're going to be somehow, if you over served them, it's a no. Yeah. I mean, yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.
[Robert Delafano]: Which we see. Yeah. And it's kind of like, well, a good example of it is,
[Councilor Zac Bears]: Have we been, are we on the list or anything?
[MCM00001210_SPEAKER_04]: I haven't seen your name yet. We see it like every six months. We see it and then there's like six numbers.
[Councilor Zac Bears]: We have like three checkpoints. One, obviously the bartender, the manager, the security. We throw people out all the time. We call Ubers. I think we're pretty diligent on that.
[Robert Delafano]: No, you guys have been good. You guys have been good. We don't see you on the list. So as big as you are and the events that you have, we would think something
[MCM00001210_SPEAKER_04]: It's going to slip through, but no, so far so good.
[Unidentified]: Yeah.
[MCM00001210_SPEAKER_04]: Then it reminds me, just question, how do you, if you kick somebody out and say, all right, we're not allowing them back in. How, how do you like regulate that? Like, is it just like, oh, I remember that, you know, that guy with the red hair drinks too much. Let me get him out of here. Oh, that actually happened the night of boxing.
[Councilor Zac Bears]: Yeah, we've had we've had people that we banned for that. We just don't know.
[MCM00001210_SPEAKER_04]: That's what it alludes to here. You're saying like if the guys who got in the fight, they're not allowed back in.
[Councilor Zac Bears]: And that's what the yeah, yeah, they've they've caused trouble for us. So this was like strike two. We're not gonna wait for strike three. So yeah, we have we have bands of people and then We haven't had to go as far as like, you know, file a police report and go to court and get a restraining order or any of that stuff. People have monitored it. Um, but as far as like the night, if someone gets thrown out that night, one, we call an Uber, we make sure they're not driving or, or make sure that like someone's there with someone that can like take them home, you know, just say, Oh, go get your car and get out of here. We have a security guard. His name is CJ. He's what? Six, six, 300.
[MCM00001210_SPEAKER_04]: But the security when they're, you know, before the night, you say, here's his list of these people who don't let them in.
[John Shea]: Is it just kind of a right now the guy, it's the same guy, all ECJ at the door. So he like knows all those people. Yeah. Sort of an informal thing. Yeah. And that's what I was. Yeah. Yeah.
[Robert Delafano]: They don't have the money for facial recognition. Yeah.
[MCM00001210_SPEAKER_04]: I kind of, you know.
[Councilor Zac Bears]: It's funny how you remember those people though, like, if you're, you know, every establishment has their, yeah, they're proud of them.
[MCM00001210_SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, they have the regulars who do their Joes or whoever that just kind of are there all the time and they're always coming.
[John Shea]: Because early on, those actually, like, when we first opened, we had to call the cops to have those brothers removed. And I forget their last name, but they came back for boxing. And right away, the security guards, like, there they are. So the detail cop walked over. Sure enough, it was them that, like, tossed them. Like, all he did was see them, though. It was like, you're gone. Yeah.
[Robert Delafano]: Yeah, it's good. The other thing too, you know, like we were just talking about the cameras, it can probably help you more than it can hurt you. And we had another license in the city that did have an incident and it was somewhat similar, but the fight escalated inside and escalated outside. And they got caught a little bit of punishment because they didn't take any action to prevent foreseeable harm. And if they had security cameras outside, we could have got a better picture of it. Instead, we went on what they said, and a little bit of security inside, and we had to suspend them for a day.
Because, you know, the story's conflicted. But in this case, you guys did a great job. You took action to prevent this evil hub, and that's where we can come after you. You know, if you don't do that, if you say, no, no, we don't want the cops here, we don't want to get involved, to go before the liquor, No, that's wrong. Like you said, you encourage them to call the police. And, you know, before it escalates to a problem that gets out of control.
[Patrick Smith]: And I think that was done for this incident. You had the fight inside. I watched the video. You can see him bring the guy outside. And then you see the crowd. That's when the phone calls made. When you have to disperse them. You can't control that second fight from happening in the pocket. You did the right thing by your call. I just want to throw one more thing out there. You guys have a big establishment. You can hold over a thousand people. Things are going to happen, but it's how do we prevent or keep people safe? And I think that's my biggest thing is how do we keep people safe?
[MCM00001210_SPEAKER_04]: That's why I think I mean, I honestly think you should guys the thing we could be while Sticklers on is like you should have known that's the high-risk night not having this skirt not having a detail that night I don't know how that one got by because that one seems like not a no-brainer, you know, you have it for less That's the night where everybody's juiced up. That's the night where everything happens. That's the night where everybody's, you know causing problems. So I That to me is probably the one where that because I know you guys are running a real a real business. It's not just a little mom and pop, you know, you're doing it right. Like that's the one that seems like that. That should have been caught. This was stuff. Yeah.
[Councilor Zac Bears]: No, this was our. So this is our second one. And the first one was a pretty tame night with about half the crowd size. On one end, it's great just to see the business. On the second side, it was definitely a shortfall. That's something we didn't see that we've learned. Yeah. Well, you didn't have an elephant the first time.
[Unidentified]: We didn't have the elephant.
[Councilor Zac Bears]: They were great.
[Robert Delafano]: Yeah, well, again, with the security, it's And, you know, it was even another incident in the city with a licensee that the security cameras helped because it was one particular patron that came in and he looked like he was a little under the weather, went into this licensee's premise, caused a little trouble assaulting a couple of young ladies, blah, blah, blah. And then he wound up leaving. But after checking the surveillance, He didn't even order a drink. He was in the bag before he even got there. Then he left. And then he got grabbed. And that protected this patron because they never served him. And, you know, there's another instance where the security cameras came out.
You know, I'm kind of big on security cameras because it's difficult for us to make a decision or a determination. We usually go by what the police says. They have first-hand knowledge. But, you know, we can't. I mean, a police officer goes in and says, yeah, I noticed a few people were drunk and this and that. But unless he actually sees them being served or somebody you know, with authority that can witness something like that and testify that he was overserved, then, you know, it's kind of a moot point. But, you know, the security cameras, I just, I say them a lot of the time. But something, you know, you should think about upgrading this gets a little better if need be. Just, I think it's going to protect you more than anything. The other thing that I, I think we got lessons learned and we spoke about it two or three times here. Maybe you can request a meeting with the Mecca Police Officer Smith, Officer Sebastian, and even Lieutenant Lockowitz, just to see if he can come up with some type of a protocol for number of patrons expected, how many police they feel will be there. So it's not a public safety issue. We might have to hire one or two police officers for the night, or whatever you fellows recommend.
years contact information yeah he's uh i have i don't have that i didn't know even if the whole team wanted to meet or whatever i don't know if you all work at the same time or whatever what's convenient what's not convenient but i just figured chain of command sure absolutely if you feel so he's go straight to him he's the guy to do it um you know and just to set something up so we don't have this issue uh you know even if it's just certain dates or certain events certain types of events or whatever And that's really, you know, that's really about it. But, you know, I think you guys did the right thing in this instance. And, you know, we're going to take a look at it. And we'll take a vote on it. We'll talk about it. And, you know, we'll let you know. We'll take it under advisement. And if you oppose, feel okay.
[MCM00001210_SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, you know, the only thing I would say, Commissioner, on the cameras, I think, because it's your decision, of course, I just think, you know, it's pick your poison, right? Like, we can either see it or we can't. So it can either work for you or against you. That's the only way I would, that's how I would phrase it. They have to just decide.
[Robert Delafano]: What they want to do, but you know, we can see it we can see it if we can't yeah That's one thing and then the protocol about you know, what what is the number we require to have a detail out front or you know, whether it's 500 700 And that's something you guys will have to wrestle with I know you don't need another expense, right, you know, but But I think it will Yeah, yeah, it's like this night next year.
[Councilor Zac Bears]: Yeah. Sorry. Yeah. Yeah Okay
[Robert Delafano]: Okay, yeah. All right, well, this concludes this hearing. I make a motion to adjourn. All those in favor? Aye. Thank you, guys. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Do we have to do anything with that canceled one day for the license? No. Officially, no? Because they're a non-profit, they didn't pay anyway, so either way they wouldn't get a refund.
[Daria Tejera]: Yeah, no.
[Robert Delafano]: Okay. And the other thing I just wanted to go over with you, I don't know if I mentioned it, I think I mentioned it before, but I just wanted to give you a reminder. Yeah, I sent that one a while ago. So you sent it to all the licensees? Yeah, yeah. Okay, cool. Which one they didn't show up? Oh no, it was the Medford Public Library. Oh, oh, oh, oh. They had an event scheduled. Was it a retirement party? It's a retirement party, yeah. Yes, they're retiring. Barbara, yeah, Mara's retiring, yeah. With what?
[Daria Tejera]: So, I guess they... Yeah, that's what I thought, that's the one getting cancelled. So, it's the one that we're a first lot last spring.
[Robert Delafano]: And I think that was it. All right, did we make a motion to adjourn? Yeah, sure. A motion to adjourn? Second. All those in favor? Aye. Aye. Aye. All those opposed? Aye. Hearing and seeing none, the motion is adjourned.
[Unidentified]: This thing is pretty cool.
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