[SPEAKER_06]: Good afternoon.
[MCM00001210_SPEAKER_01]: Good afternoon, Alan.
[SPEAKER_06]: Good afternoon, Alan.
[MCM00001210_SPEAKER_01]: Hi, Dario. Nick, how are you?
[Nick Bolitho]: Good.
[MCM00001210_SPEAKER_01]: Hi, Max.
[Nick Bolitho]: Good.
[MCM00001210_SPEAKER_01]: Hi, good afternoon. Bobby, good to see you.
[Robert Delafano]: Good to see you as well.
[Allan Martorana]: Hello, Bobby. How are you?
[Robert Delafano]: Sorry for the confusion this morning, Daria. I happen to be in City Hall. I was going out to do the homebound vaccinations with one of the nurses, so I figured I'd pop in to see in case there was anything I needed.
[Daria Tejera]: Of course, not a problem.
[MCM00001210_SPEAKER_01]: I think we're just waiting for Ben. Yes.
[Unidentified]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_06]: He's jumping on.
[MCM00001210_SPEAKER_01]: Oh, good. Thank you.
[SPEAKER_06]: There he is. Hey, Ben.
[Unidentified]: Yep.
[SPEAKER_06]: Everybody. Hello. Good to see you.
[MCM00001210_SPEAKER_01]: Good to see you. Right. So with everybody being present, uh, I will call the April 20th licensing commission meeting to order. Um, this being my final meeting, I have decided that, uh, I will introduce Bobby Dallefano as. uh, the newest addition to the license commission. Um, welcome Bob. I think Bob is known to Alan and Ben and, and, um, I'm sure we'll do a very good job. Um, the only thing I wanted to do, um, diarrhea was just to clean up the outstanding minutes because I was present at one of them, uh, which was the March 29th meeting. I was not at the March 16th meeting. So, um, Before I turn the meeting over to the three commissioners, if we could just, I think they've been passed around as well. If we could just take a vote to, if everybody's had a chance to look at them, to review and approve the March 16th and March 29th meetings. I don't have any questions on the March 29th meeting that I was at, but I don't know if anybody had any on the March 16th.
[Allan Martorana]: No, Mr. Chairman, no, you're right. I mean, Daria had very concise bullet notes. I think for the length of the meeting and the amount, everything we discussed, I think she's captured it in the minutes. So I would motion to approve the minutes of March 16th and March 29th meeting.
[MCM00001210_SPEAKER_01]: Great, I would second that motion. And all those in favor? Aye. Aye. So both the minutes have been approved and accepted, which will be my final act. I just want to thank my fellow commissioners, Alan Maturano and Ben for O'Sullivan-Pierce and Bobby Dallefano. It's been a great run. I've enjoyed the company and I think we acted really well together. I think it was a great commission. I'm one that I'm very proud of having served on for over 25 years. Uh, I wish you all the best I'm available. If, if I can help in any way, uh, feel free to give me a call. Uh, but as most of, you know, I retired in November and I'm looking forward to spending more time with my grandchildren and, um, you know, traveling a little bit. So, um, you all, uh, can reach me on my cell phone at any time. And, uh, I know you've got a good, uh, third person on the commission now with Bobby Delafano, Bobby. Bobby's family and mine go way back. And, uh, I think he's been a great addition. I'm proud to have him, um, as a replacement. So, um, with that being said, and Daria, I would just want to make one comment. You know, you've been a real pleasure to deal with a real joy. Um, you stepped into the shoes when, when, uh, they were big shoes to fill and you never walked away from it. You stayed with it and, uh, made our job a lot easier. And I thank you very much. for the time and effort that you put into this commission. It is, uh, it is noted by everybody on the commission. And I just wanted to make that, uh, one of my potting, uh, statements as I, as I turned the meeting over to three qualified, uh, commissioners and, uh, wish you all the best.
[Allan Martorana]: Thank you, Jim. Jim, can I just add, um, thank you very much. I mean, 25 years of service is outstanding and. And I, for one, have learned a ton from you. And I use some of your quotes, especially the one bite of the apple. I have incorporated that into when my teams kind of mess up. I go, we're going to give them one bite of the apple.
[MCM00001210_SPEAKER_01]: So I do thank you.
[Allan Martorana]: So we can't convince you to stay on for another 25 years? No, no.
[MCM00001210_SPEAKER_01]: Thank you for the kind offer. No. If I had unlimited time or somebody could give me a guarantee for unlimited time, You know, I'd probably think about it, but I gotta make the best, while my wife's health is good and my health is good, and try to give back a little bit to the grandchildren and my own children who have been very flexible during this whole process. So thank you for the kind offer, Alan, but I don't think I'll pass.
[Allan Martorana]: Well, thank you. Thank you for everything. And I truly wish you all the best.
[MCM00001210_SPEAKER_04]: Jim, I'd like to say thank you very much, too. You've been a great leader here. You really steered the ship well, and I'm sure it'll continue to go that way, but you know, it was a pleasure and, you know, thanks and God bless you. And I know you'll do, you know, it'll be great to be probably done with it, but we do appreciate all that you did when you were here. We'll find you, Jim. We'll find you.
[MCM00001210_SPEAKER_01]: I'm not going far. I'll be around if you need me and all the best to each and every one of you, a very capable group. And you shouldn't, you shouldn't need my advice. You're very capable to pull this whole thing together. And I wish you all the best. Many years of success. Thank you so much. Yes, go ahead, Bobby.
[Robert Delafano]: I just want to wish you the best of luck as well on your retirement. And thank you for the kind words. I never had the pleasure to work with you on the commission, but thank you again for all your service for the past 25 years.
[MCM00001210_SPEAKER_01]: No problem, no problem. And as I said earlier, Bob, I couldn't be prouder to have somebody like you take my seat. And it makes me feel good that the commission is in good hands with not only Alan and Ben, but with the addition of you as well. So thank you very much. And with that, I will say good luck. God bless the United States of America.
[Allan Martorana]: Thank you, Jim.
[MCM00001210_SPEAKER_01]: Thank you, Jim. Bye-bye.
[Allan Martorana]: Take care. Bye-bye. Very nice, very nice. That was great. Yeah, we're gonna miss him. Yes. Let's get moving forward. Gary, I see the next item on the agenda is that now that Jim has left the helm, he's walked off the bridge, we need to pick our own chair of this commission. And so, I just, I thought, you know, let's discuss it. Sorry, Nick. Sorry, Max. You know, I know you guys are patiently waiting, but we just got some housekeeping issues first, okay? So don't, I'm sorry. Ben, Bobby, what are your thoughts about how we should steer the ship?
[Robert Delafano]: Well, if I may, I'm fairly new. This is my first meeting. What I have a couple of questions at is, in all of my jobs in the past years, it's always been things with seniority because the senior man usually has the most experience. I don't know how much time you have, Alan, or you have been. But I would say, you know, the person with the most time in the seat, I personally feel should be the chair, because they have the most experience. And, you know, I think, I think it'd be a great fit that way.
[MCM00001210_SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, thanks, Bobby. So as yeah, I have thought about this as well. We haven't, you know, discussed it outside of these meetings. And, you know, I've been on the commission for three years. And Alan, you have, I know, it's been 10 or so. It's been some time. And I would agree with that, as far as you know, I do think that you would be the most qualified as the as the chair, you know, you know, by a bit by a bit. And so, you know, I would be in favor of that as well.
[Allan Martorana]: You know, I had said to the mayor, I'm not opposed to stepping in and being the chair, but I, you know, I did want Bobby's feedback and your feedback, Ben, because I just didn't wanna go, oh, I'm the senior man and, you know, and that's the way it is, you know? So I, you know, because I'm, you know, I'm a banker, I'm from the private sector, we're all in the private sector, so we, you know, things operate differently than municipalities and unions and stuff, so. But if you two are of the same mind, I'd be more than happy to step in and be the chair until I screw up. And you go, geez, Al, you're a train wreck. And it's time to step aside. So I guess, Daria, how would we do this? Do we need to do a vote? I think, yeah, just do it, we'll, yeah.
[Robert Delafano]: Put it in the form of a motion, maybe, for Alan to be the new chair?
[Allan Martorana]: I guess I couldn't make the motion. So I guess one of you make the motion and then second it, yeah.
[MCM00001210_SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, I could. Yeah, I'll make a motion that the board, the Medford Licensing Committee, elect Alan or vote on Alan Matarado sorry, Maturana, to be the new chair of this board. So I would make that motion.
[Robert Delafano]: I second the motion.
[Allan Martorana]: Thank you, Ben. All in favor, yeah. Thank you. Allen, you're in favor. Yeah, I'm in favor too. Well, thank you for your vote of confidence. I appreciate it. Okay, so we got that out of the way. Very good. All right, then let me just kind of jump in. Daria, I saw your email a few minutes ago about frontline of fresh barbershop. Yes. Do we do we have them on the line with us or no?
[Daria Tejera]: Yes, yes. Nick is actually here. He came in and corrected it before so I could send it to you guys the updated one. Hold on. Let me just get him. Hold on.
[Unidentified]: Thank you.
[MCM00001210_SPEAKER_04]: So that's been updated to the house there one, Alan. Is that, I was just trying to catch up on those.
[Daria Tejera]: So just the names. So now Nick ended up opening his own business and it's now called West Medford Events.
[Allan Martorana]: You can come over here. Yeah. I saw that. I mean, I printed out, I'm still old school. I just kind of print everything out. I'm not like the young kids at work. They got two screens, they get these two big screens and they go back and forth. I don't, I'm still all school stuff. So I did print out the application and I get it. I understand we're going from frontline of Fresh Barbershop to West Medford events. So if guys, if you don't mind, can I just kind of ask some questions? Yeah, please. Donald, thank you for attending. Okay, so it's West Medford events. Are you still, is that a corporation or is that an association? Are you a registered nonprofit? I understood your business, the barbershop, I understood that, but what is West Medford Events?
[SPEAKER_10]: So I'm putting this together with the barbershop and he was just, that's what his business, his barbershop was under. And he was like worried about tax liability. So I just went online, opened a sole proprietorship, registered it with the city. I have the official letter here with the city's deal on it and talked to my accountant, set up a bank account. That way, all money comes into one place we have a clean audit trail, it's not commingling with good good good personal business. It's just a smarter move all around, and the permanent we got from the parks and rec, or the parks commission that's under West Medford events for the use of Duggar Park and. The insurance policy for the event is under West Medford events, everything's been changed in one sole prop just for your tax liability reasons, because we've seen like a quite a bit of interest in this. And again, we just didn't want to have cash coming into it. you know, mixing with his business.
[Allan Martorana]: Yeah, with this business. Yeah, I was I was kind of concerned about that. So okay, so you've addressed the insurance diary. Do we have a copy of the binder of the policy? Yes. Yes. To me, can we get the city permission? Good. Those were two of my questions. We talked about West Med that can can I ask I see you have 200 Estimated guests. I hope you have more now. Hope it's a huge success. But tell me why all alcohol? Why not just beer and wine? Why the running the whole gamut?
[SPEAKER_10]: I did. I must have tried. We're being sponsored by Willie's Superbrew. We're going to carry all, it's just like a spike cider. And we're going to have, we're asking permission to have sangria. We don't need all alcohol. I didn't, that must've just been, the last time I filled this out, you guys didn't allow all alcohol. So I might've just overlooked that. Okay. Yeah. I don't want to sell vodka in public. That's not a good idea.
[Allan Martorana]: Yeah. Like I'm thinking, you know, you're going to have bourbon and scotch. Everybody's going to be hanging out. Yeah. Okay. It's just going to be us.
[SPEAKER_10]: We have a sponsor for the event and it's just their product. And then like a sangria. Okay.
[Allan Martorana]: So it's going to be wine and malt, not all alcohol. Okay. Good. All right. Ben, Bobby, questions, anything on your thoughts? Could you just explain what this event is?
[SPEAKER_10]: So it's a cornhole tournament, you know, with everything kind of coming back to normal. Typically I do like the Halloween party in the West Bedford parking lot. I've done that and just, I don't know, we just wanted to like a fun community event just to get people out, you know, full disclosure, it's great marketing for Snappy Patties by business. So that's also, you know, we're tying that into it, just at a marketing level. It's not any way intertwined with the business. And I don't know, it's something fun to do.
[MCM00001210_SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, cool. No, no, there's nothing wrong with that. And so,
[SPEAKER_10]: Thank you.
[MCM00001210_SPEAKER_04]: So snappy Pat, I'm sorry I'm just getting this confused. So snappy patties is your business but the frontline barbershop, they, that's all.
[SPEAKER_10]: I mean I know I'm looking at this, the reason we originally we're going to pull the license for frontline of fresh barbershop we're like. We're hosting it with them. Like we're all kind of paying for everything together. Nappy Patty's isn't able to pull a one day permit because we have an existing liquor license with the city. So that's why we originally got to pull it with the frontline of fresh. And then when we talked about tax liability and stuff like that, I figured, you know, this event's probably going to garner a couple thousand dollars. I don't want that mixed. He doesn't want it mixed. There's obviously going to be taxes to pay on it. So we figured just open up a sole proprietorship and just do everything through that. And my accountant said he'd do all our taxes for free if he can come for free, so.
[MCM00001210_SPEAKER_04]: So do you guys have like a plan of what this is like supposed to look like? So in the past, like if somebody's doing a beer, like they sort of show us a plan because it shows where the alcohol is actually being like distributed in the like, you know, just kind of things that might sound crazy, but like somebody can't go walk off into the street. Like there's like, yeah. Is there a plan? I mean, so And I don't know, Daria, did you send the new packet or is that what he has there?
[Daria Tejera]: No, I sent a new one. It was a couple of minutes. It was probably like 1255.
[SPEAKER_10]: I could answer all that. I mean, OK, so with the park commission told us to talk to the traffic division at the police department, they're going to shut down the street adjacent to Duggar Park. I can't remember the name of it. I believe it's. I live on Fairfield Street, this is embarrassing. The street that runs adjacent to Duggar Park the perfect player with that street. Yeah, the traffic division is going to shut it down. Yes, the West Midford Community Center has a rear entrance to the Duggar Park there, or that street they're gonna allow us to use their bathrooms. I mean, that's, I haven't heard that Donald, who owns front line of fresh user contact there and he said that they're going to allow us to use the bathrooms. Um, we're going to wristband everybody, obviously ID everybody. And it's going to be the alcohol is going to be served on the basketball courts. We're using Taylor party rental to get, um, you know, partitions for that. Uh, that's going to be like the control point for alcohol. Everyone's going to enter through the corner of the park where, um, heart, uh, Harvard ave meets Duggar park. So we're gonna have every funnel in through there. We, we working with Taylor party rental to get some partitions for the area. and then we're gonna use the grassy field. Obviously, no one's going over the Mystic River. The existing guardrail will be the edge of it. And we're just gonna kind of host the event in the field. And if people need to cross the street to use the bathrooms at the West Bedford Community Center, that whole street is gonna be shut down. So it's gonna be, it's a large area, but it's gonna be confined to that area. That's what we wanted to hear.
[Allan Martorana]: We wanted to hear that it was going to be petitioned off in a controlled area. And that's something that we've always emphasized with anybody looking for a one-day license. We want to know what the control point will be for the serving of the alcohol. So thank you for pointing that out.
[Unidentified]: But do you have any diagram of that?
[MCM00001210_SPEAKER_04]: Sorry, but there's no diagram of that that you submitted that shows that, is there?
[SPEAKER_10]: I could easily put one together for you.
[MCM00001210_SPEAKER_04]: I'm sure you could. I didn't know that was necessary. I'm sorry. Um, no, no, no, don't be sorry. I, it's, it's just some, it's, it's sometimes with reoccurring events, that's like the easiest way to do it. They just put it in front of us and we say, okay, we get it. Obviously visual. Yeah.
[Allan Martorana]: Yeah. You know, you know, Ben, that's not a bad idea. Maybe that's something we should, um, let Daria know that that's, uh, you know, that the art commission would like to see something like that in the future. So we can visualize, you know, what the scope of the, uh, the event is going to be like sure.
[SPEAKER_10]: I think it might help everybody. I have one on my desk that we've been talking about at work. I have it all drawn out at work. I could literally go back there, I could email it to all of you, because we've been trying to figure that out ourselves.
[Allan Martorana]: Do you mind at least getting it to Daria so we can get it in your file so it's on record?
[SPEAKER_10]: 100%, yeah. We've had two meetings about how we're going to make sure Everything's going to flow and nobody's going to wander off and we have like we're gonna have probably 15 employees, you know volunteers employees at this thing working for us obviously they're all going to abstain from drinking, which they didn't like but obviously we're going to enforce it.
[Allan Martorana]: Yeah. Well, I just had two other concerns. One, licensed bartender, they're TIP certified or certified, all of that?
[SPEAKER_10]: Okay. All of our bartenders are TIP certified.
[Allan Martorana]: Okay, cool. And then you have one to seven. Is there a way that we can cut it off before seven o'clock? Like usually we'd like, you know, maybe 6.30. Well, we don't want things being served like at 6.58, 6.59 p.m.? Last call.
[SPEAKER_10]: We do it every night.
[Allan Martorana]: Last call. Yes. Of course. Yeah. Okay. What do you think would be a fair last call?
[SPEAKER_10]: I mean, we were probably going to do that anyway. I just put the same hours that the Parks Commission gave us for their permit, but we wouldn't be serving. People need time to finish their last beverage, so that would be a natural, obviously, at 6.30. Yeah. Okay. Yeah.
[MCM00001210_SPEAKER_04]: It seems good. Yeah. And just a question. So it's on a Sunday that the event is, not Saturday, right? Yep. Okay. And no, that sounds fine.
[SPEAKER_10]: I talked to Burke Distributing. They're the ones that carry Willie's Super Brew. They said, if I get the one day permit from you folks, I can email it to them and they can drop the alcohol delivery at my restaurant. not the address of the park, which is what they normally do, but because I also have a walk-in refrigerator, they're going to drop the product on a Friday, so I can have it refrigerated, ready to go. And then along with the party rental, we're going to have a refrigerator, you know, I rented a bunch of coolers. We're just going to have the product in coolers. Sorry, I thought that's the way you're going with that.
[MCM00001210_SPEAKER_04]: No, no, no. I was, it wasn't even that. No, I was thinking, honestly, if there's, you know, just, just the community where it's in, if there's like churches on that street or anything like that, where the event is, if it's like right next to it. I, you know, cause it's on a Sunday, but I think I was, I don't think there are, you know, yeah. And, but, you know, and that's not really, that's not so much in our domain anyway, now that I'm thinking about some residential homes.
[SPEAKER_10]: Yep.
[MCM00001210_SPEAKER_04]: Okay. So we would just amend that just to say wine and malt then, Alan, is that what you're thinking?
[Allan Martorana]: Yeah, wine and malt under the license information instead of frontline, it would say West Medford events. So I think we're good. Bob, any questions or thoughts, anything? I know you're the new kid on the block, but anything?
[Robert Delafano]: I had a couple, but you guys asked them already. One was about the licensed bartender, the TIP certified, which he answered, which was great. Donald, I just want to ask you, you won't snappy Patty's food from what I hear. Are you going to be providing food to this event as well?
[SPEAKER_10]: That's my next stop. It wasn't 100% part of the plan. but given the fact that it's going to be, you know, six hours, we kind of want to do that. If I'm going to, I'm going to the health department right after this. And if all else fails, I have a couple of friends that own food trucks and I would, you know, if they don't allow us to do what I want to do, then I would just ask them to allow a food truck to come in. So yes, one way or another, we're going to attempt to get food there.
[Robert Delafano]: Okay. And the only thing I, Might've had a question on just Aaron, Mr. Morton speaking, where he owns Snappy Patty's and the delivery is going to be made to Snappy Patty's and stored there to stay cold. I understand that a hundred percent, but are we going to run into an issue for a transportation permit of alcohol from Snappy Patty's to the park? Or is that not an issue? I think if I'm not mistaken, the ABCC may want to issue some sort of a permit or a license to transport to get around that. you may want to have your refrigeration units at the park and have it just delivered right to the park on hand. So, you know, you're not filling up your car or whatever with alcoholic beverages and illegally transporting them in a larger quantity than you're allowed to. On that note, I mean,
[SPEAKER_10]: I thought about bringing, my friend owns a business on the Boston Fish Pier and I was thinking about using one of his reefer vans for the event anyway.
[Robert Delafano]: It'd be perfect.
[SPEAKER_10]: And because for large stores, we were thinking all these different coolers. I mean, that's the kind of the route we were not planning on. It was a thought. He's closed all weekend. I could very easily get one of his reefer vans and just use that. And he's going to be there.
[Robert Delafano]: I think that's a good solution. A little more comfortable to put that on the property and just use it as storage on the property, obviously secured and having one of your employees there with it rather than having it delivered to your place.
[SPEAKER_10]: I understand that concern and the legal, you know, everything around that, yeah.
[Robert Delafano]: Okay.
[SPEAKER_10]: That's very easy to do.
[Allan Martorana]: Yeah, it's a good solution. Nice catch, Bob, nice catch. Great, I don't have any further questions. Would one of you like to make a motion?
[MCM00001210_SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, I don't have any further questions. Yeah, I'll make a motion to approve the one day license for, what was the name of that again is? West Medford events. West Medford events. Okay, so one day license for the West Medford events on five, 22-22.
[Allan Martorana]: Very good.
[Robert Delafano]: I second the motion.
[Allan Martorana]: Very good. Hearing no opposition, motion passed. Thank you. Thank you very much. Hope it's a success. Thank you. Good luck. Thanks. Gary, thank you for accommodating him at your office. Let's see the next set. We're just going to take them right in order. The House Beer Brewing. Are they on with us? I am. Hello. Oh, yes. I see you, Beth. Yes. Thank you.
[MCM00001217_SPEAKER_09]: So we've been accepted to the Medford Farmers Market. We were there last summer. as you folks may recall. And we really enjoyed being in Medford and at the market there, everything was super great. And the location is wonderful. And so we're very excited about being back again this year, selling our mead and cider. Do you have any questions for me about being there?
[Allan Martorana]: You know, my question is, I did not know what mead was. So I decided to research mead. And it's fascinating, honey and water. And when you skip the boiling process, you go right to fermentation. It's very similar to wine. But yeah, no, I got a good education because I did not, honestly, I did not know what mead was. So, but I know you participated last year and the application is complete. You know, I see you and Carl researched your company. I chuckled over how you got your name. So I don't know. I did not have any questions because this is your second time around and you made it through the first vetting process and there were no incidents, no issues the last time. So Ben, any questions? Bob, any questions?
[Robert Delafano]: I just have a quick question because I wasn't here last year. The sampling, well, your stand there, is that strictly for sampling that people can taste your product and then purchase by the bottle or container? Or is it somebody can actually purchase a glass and drink it on the premise, like, you know, if you were selling a mock beverage or whatever? Or is it both?
[MCM00001217_SPEAKER_09]: Well, actually, it's interesting that you should ask that. At a farmer's market, we are only allowed to provide free samples. We're not allowed to sell by the glass. So we're selling bottles for off-premises consumption. So if we are pouring any, it's only small samples for people to try before they buy. It is not a by-the-glass situation. If we wanted to do something like that at an event, what we'd have to do is get a one day permit, not a farmer's market special permit.
[Robert Delafano]: Okay. And this is going on, you're planning on being there every week from June 9th through 10, 13, 22?
[MCM00001217_SPEAKER_09]: I think right now we're scheduled for every other week, but we try to get our license for the whole market because sometimes a vendor will cancel and if we don't have the license for the whole market, if we have it for only specific days, then we can't pick up extra days. So let's just say that the bread guy decides to cancel and they say, hey, is there anyone available for this date? Sometimes we like to pick an extra date up if we can and if we're allowed. So right now we're scheduled for every other week but open to more dates.
[Robert Delafano]: Okay, great. Very good. Thank you.
[MCM00001217_SPEAKER_09]: You're welcome.
[MCM00001210_SPEAKER_04]: Thank you. Yeah, I don't have any, any specific questions. Thanks for Claire, Bob, that Bobby good question there but just clarifying the sampling I knew there wasn't. Actually, I knew you weren't we weren't serving full, you know, glasses of wine or anything but that forgot how that worked. Yeah, I remember approving this last year. It seems as though it went well. I'm glad you're back. And that seems reasonable about being approved for every gate, just in the event, you know, somebody bills last minute and you can get in there and make it a better farmer's market for the community. So I'm okay with everything.
[Allan Martorana]: Yeah. Cool. Yeah, me too. You want to Bob, Ben, or you want to make a motion?
[MCM00001210_SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, I can do that. Also the insurance look good here. I'll make a motion to accept the farmer's winery license. That's for house bear brewing, as we just discussed.
[Robert Delafano]: I second.
[Allan Martorana]: Very good. All in favor? Aye. Very good. Beth, you guys are good for another year? Yay. Good luck. Thank you. All right. We'll see you at the market.
[MCM00001217_SPEAKER_09]: Thanks.
[Allan Martorana]: Bye-bye. Bye-bye. Bye-bye, Beth. Okay. Medford Brewing Company, let's do the two one-day licenses before we jump into the permit, the pouring permit, okay?
[Nick Bolitho]: Sounds good. All right.
[Allan Martorana]: Makes sense. So tell us, what are you guys up to, Nick, Max?
[Nick Bolitho]: What now? So we've got these two that we've got for you right now, although we will be presenting and requesting some more next month perhaps. We've got Circle the Square on June 18th. Kashi reached out to us and asked if we would do the beer tent there, and the West Medford Open Studios also asked us if we would do a beer tent, beer garden for them as well. So Circle the Square, as you know we've done other events in Medford Square, Circle the Square is going to be in the parking lot for the members credit union.
[Allan Martorana]: That's the one.
[Nick Bolitho]: Yes, the and there again, we've got very strict instruction work with them. We're going to have tips everyone's tip certified, we're going to be ID ID bracelets as well. Going in now and I know in the past has been a few events sort of housed at that spot as well.
[MCM00001210_SPEAKER_04]: Yeah. Does it say, sorry, does it say like on this application where this is, I can't make it out from the application. On the second page, Ben, the top premises location. West Medford Open Studios in Duggar Park, okay. Oh, yeah.
[Allan Martorana]: I like that the parking lot for Members Credit Union, with that high fence, it's all, it's easy to contain in that little area. So during, Paul Rivera Day, I don't even know what we call it, but Winter Hill was there. So they sat in there and it's very, very controlled and they had the barriers there. So it's a nice venue there. Are you gonna have food there as well?
[Nick Bolitho]: We are not supplying food. There will be food supplied at Circle Square though. I know that right now they're actually talking with different individual vendors, but yeah, there is definitely a plan to have food by then.
[Robert Delafano]: Okay. Yeah, it was checked yes on your application. That's why I was wondering if that was the case. Okay.
[MCM00001210_SPEAKER_04]: Yep. Who puts on the event, is Circle the Square and what?
[Nick Bolitho]: So Circle the Square is put on by, I think it's Cache, C-H-E or something. Cache. Cache. And then WMOS is put on by the West Medford Arts Coalition, I think it is.
[Heinegg]: Yeah, it's an annual thing.
[MCM00001210_SPEAKER_04]: Yeah.
[Allan Martorana]: I don't have any more questions. No, I took a look at, I see the liability insurance, there's $2 million there, nice. And you guys have a proven track record with no incidents, so we're very comfortable. So if we can have a motion, let's do one at a time. Let's do the June 18th one first. The one that's being held, I think that's Circle the Square at Members Plus Credit Union parking lot.
[MCM00001210_SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, I'll make a motion to approve the June 18th event, Circle the Square.
[Allan Martorana]: Good.
[Robert Delafano]: Second.
[Allan Martorana]: All right, very good. Thank you, Bob. Thank you, Ben. Motion to approve has been granted, so that one's out. So that one's That one's good, so let's just take the next one. This is the one at the West Medford Open Studios at Duggar Park. You know, Nick Max, you must have heard us ask about how do you plan to contain that where it's an open park? Are you two going to have petitions around the tennis court or the basketball court? How do we control that?
[Nick Bolitho]: Yeah, I think we need to really work with them with them on their layout of where we want things. But yes, we'll have a petitioned off section said we'll be doing the tick pretty that the bracelets as well checking on ages. But yeah, it will be contained.
[MCM00001210_SPEAKER_04]: Yeah. Yeah, I think Alan side note on a future if we have the if like whoever's putting the event on just has a diagram of it, it makes it so easy for us to even like the farmer's market shows where the tents are and everything, and you can say, oh yeah, okay.
[Allan Martorana]: Yep.
[MCM00001210_SPEAKER_04]: Cool.
[Allan Martorana]: Yeah. And Dara, if you, like I said, Dara, I think that's a great suggestion from Ben, if we could just incorporate that for future meetings, that would be excellent. Okay. I don't have any questions. Yeah. I mean, the insurance is in order. And like, again, they got a nice track record. So I don't have any other questions.
[MCM00001210_SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, I don't either. So I will make a motion to approve the application for the one day license for June 25th.
[Allan Martorana]: Very good. Thank you guys. All in favor. Motion carries. Thank you. All right. So those two one day licenses are out of the way. Okay, the pouring permit, the biggie. Thank you for submitting an application. I see all the, you contacted all the neighbors. I was concerned about that. Tell me, I see you bought 30 Harvard in September of last year. How's the construction, how's that all progressing?
[Nick Bolitho]: Like all construction, slower than I'd like. It's actually going well. We're well underway with everything. We've actually had structural engineers and everything double check everything. We're all permitted up. Things are moving along very nicely right now. I'm hoping we're going to be done with construction probably within the next 30 days or so. We're now, yeah, we're kind of, we cut the big bit of wall out, which was the painful piece. But other than that, we're, I said, yeah, we're looking, yeah, hopefully within the next 30 days for that construction to be finished. And then we just got to get the permit sort of signed off on.
[MCM00001210_SPEAKER_04]: Okay.
[Daria Tejera]: I think Marie Kendrick had a question.
[SPEAKER_04]: Yep. Hi, this is Mark Kerwin. Marie's husband. Our concern was living across the street. Now we do have a parking lot that's full and I guess we were concerned about if this was the forum to ask questions what the plan is for parking because we just our condominium association foresees problems with parking and you know people will not have the ability we do not have the ability to take any extra cars in our lot.
[Nick Bolitho]: Should I answer that directly?
[MCM00001210_SPEAKER_04]: Maybe I can just point out, I think in the liquor licensing board, would we be dealing with parking questions or would that be more of a building zoning question? So I think answering it briefly is fine, but I don't know that this is the right place to discuss that.
[Allan Martorana]: That's right, that's right. Thank you, Ben.
[Nick Bolitho]: Okay, thank you. So if I may answer Ben very quickly, We have a certain number of space outside the building. There's the West Medford commuter rail parking lot, but there's also, we have an agreement with the once Fantasia building who has a gigantic parking lot basically next to it. So we have a huge overflow parking lot that can probably accommodate 50 cars if needed. And we have a verbal agreement with them that we'll get in writing overall moving forward.
[Allan Martorana]: Thank you. Yeah, no, you're right. I remember parking in there a few times. So that's good. I'm glad you're thinking along that lines, because we want to keep the entire neighborhood happy. So good. Thank you for that, Nick. Thank you, Mark, for that question. We appreciate it.
[MCM00001210_SPEAKER_04]: Yeah. It's important the neighborhood supports it, of course. So I want you to be able to tell them that. Yeah. OK. Thank you very much.
[Allan Martorana]: Yep. Thank you. I was looking at the plan and then I was looking at the rules and the rules say that we need to have eight seating capacity of not less than eight people, eight individuals. So I see three on the plan. So is this the final plan, the final elevation?
[Nick Bolitho]: I, on there for the seating capacity.
[Allan Martorana]: Yeah, on the seating, because one of the rules, number one, the rule number one says that seating capacity of not less than eight persons. So we have to have eight, at least eight.
[Nick Bolitho]: Yes, I can send it off, but I believe we have another one with actually with some seating sort of put out where there was about, I think 70. Okay, 70 people. Yes, 70, yes. We have the building size, we opted for a under 99 occupancy. Basically, a lot of that's to do with having fire suppression systems. But yes, so there will be seating in other sections. I'm sorry, that didn't happen. Okay, because we will see.
[Allan Martorana]: Yeah, this elevation just all it has is three stools. So I was curious to know. Yeah. Do we do we have an updated one, the few for the for our records are not yet available. I'll get one to you.
[Robert Delafano]: I had noticed also that there was a number like 70 somewhere in the report. I have to apologize. I didn't get to even look at this until about an hour before this meeting. But I did notice that there was quite a seating capacity. But what I didn't see in the drawing, was, you know, where exactly the tables and seats would be, which would be, you know, the tables that you can move, the seats you can move, and or any fixed seating capacity, which would be like your booths, also known as booths, if there was any type of a floor plan as to where they are and how they're spaced out and stuff like that.
[Nick Bolitho]: Yes, yes, so we won't be having fixed seating because the nature of the building, when we're not open to the public, that we will be using space for brewing stuff and moving things around a lot, basically, from kegs and canning machines and other such things. Sure. But I can certainly send something through for Daria, which will have some mapping out of where we were thinking things of putting the tables and chairs.
[Robert Delafano]: Okay, great. Thank you.
[MCM00001210_SPEAKER_04]: So Nick, Nick, is that the seating that's at the end of the bar, and then we're up by the storage area. Those are the main seating areas behind the bat game room to
[Nick Bolitho]: Yes, those were all areas that said the middle section is essentially where the brewing is going to be. And that's not going to have seating. But then either side is basically there's going to be sort of seating spattered around. And I'm not actually going to do a game room. But it's cool.
[Robert Delafano]: I see some seating in the game room area as well. Yeah. Over by the restrooms.
[Allan Martorana]: Yeah. Nick, Max, how did the neighbors react? Did anybody come over and find you guys or anybody show up at the high school? Max, anybody looking for you at the high school? Any questions from the neighbors, anything?
[Heinegg]: Only words of welcome. Can you hear me okay? Because I'm in New Mexico. Only words of welcome and encouragement. Some people poking their heads in when things were getting swept and just asking, when are we going to be open? And us saying diplomatically, as soon as we can. But nobody has sought me out at the high school, nor have I received any written correspondence. It's just been general, like people walking by and waving.
[Nick Bolitho]: Very good. Very good. Actually, I've had a couple of correspondence from people. I had one neighbor who had a slight concern, actually, with the parking. And that was when we very early on started and had a long conversation with them. And they're very satisfied with what we said, I think, because a prior business had some parking issues. And that's why I got ahead of the game with the extension. extra parking lot. And other than that, I've had three people, I think, within basically in the neighborhood and the surrounding areas, we've asked if they can work for us. So nothing but positive from every single person that we've actually had.
[MCM00001210_SPEAKER_04]: Great. And I'm just curious, the way we this, this, we started this all, you guys started this process before COVID and then it went to the city council. and there was some conversation about food and everything, was, how did you leave it with them in terms of food or, yeah, and anything along those lines, or has that just been totally out of this?
[Nick Bolitho]: So the, going back to the conversations we had with the city council, that was actually more along the line, that conversation was purely along the lines of, the size of systems, where they can be used and where they can be housed. And at the time we were actually discussing with regards to zoning, and actually it was for a under seven barrel brewing system to be allowed to be used in a brew pub for a restaurant to then utilize that themselves without any additional permitting. I think we had the discussion, I think, with you lot probably about two, three years ago now. It's taken us this long. And again, I believe within, and then there's actually, you all deemed that we wouldn't need food with this pouring permit.
[Allan Martorana]: Yeah, yeah, yeah. In 19, the pouring regulations were finally ratified by the city. So it's, It's been a while. Yeah, while you're right.
[MCM00001210_SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, we did decide the food wasn't a requirement but it was something that the city council had some questions.
[Allan Martorana]: Yeah, they were.
[Heinegg]: So I had spoken to the woman who came to visit us from the Board of Health, and we had spoken about, because we're not ready to have an operational small kitchen yet, that if we were going to do something like pretzels or what have you, that I would need to, that Nick and I would need to send that over to her for her approval, and that the discussion of whether or not ultimately we'd be able to do anything with food trucks, et cetera, would be a future conversation. Obviously the future of Medford Brewing Company would be to include food in some capacity. But the way we left it was that we were going to send a potential limited, possibly very limited menu over to her and she was going to look at it. And I forget if her name was Alison Conroy. I was trying to make sure. I didn't wanna get her name wrong.
[Robert Delafano]: Yeah, that's Alison. Can I ask a question? I wasn't here at the beginning with all of this planning, but I imagine that you're going to be offering beer for on-premise consumption, as well as people can purchase it to take home either by the six pack or by the, what are those refillable grogs, I think they call them, my brother. Growler, yes. Growler, there you go. Is that what this operation is going to be, that you can do both?
[Nick Bolitho]: Yes. So right now, we actually have a distributor who, right now we use Atlantic Beverage Distribution, who for the majority of our products, they actually distribute them themselves. So we don't see a huge amount of sales of those basically cans on site, but yes.
[Robert Delafano]: Okay, thank you.
[Allan Martorana]: I've scanned through the package that Daria said, nothing is jumping out. I do see Mark Kerwin who was on and asked questions. I see he is one of the abutters. So I do understand their concern. To me, it looks in order. I just, one thing, Daria, maybe you can help me. When I look at the rules, it says compliance by property owner. If we don't have a final plan, does the final plan hold up our ability to allow them to keep moving forward with the pouring permit?
[Daria Tejera]: I think as long as they can get it to us, because I got a, I'm not sure with this one if I send it to ABCC once it's approved with us because technically they have a brewing permit already from ABCC so the permanent comes directly from us. Yeah, so I don't know, because this is my first time doing anything with brewing. I have no idea because I've read a couple times through that rules and regulations as well but some things are not as clear to me only because I haven't, you know, I wasn't here when you guys did the rules and regulations.
[Allan Martorana]: Yeah.
[Daria Tejera]: I keep trying to look at it with like fresh eyes versus reading it over and not understanding what I'm reading.
[Allan Martorana]: Yeah, that's kind of why I'm focusing on this thing, because I think if we have a revised copy, like when Bob was saying about, okay, yeah, it's a 99 person capacity, 70 seating. I guess if we could have an up-to-date version of this so we can really see how everything's going to unfold, I think that would be fine with us to keep moving forward with the The permit.
[Heinegg]: I'm sure I'm sure I'm sure we can get you a picture of the way we want to lay out the tables is, you know, we're just still discussing exactly which spot to put the tables but obviously we're going to have seating for well more than eight people, you know, that's, yeah, it's definitely our intention.
[Allan Martorana]: No, I see that, but I think I'd at least have that. I know you're gonna tweak it as time, I know it's gonna get tweaked a little bit, but at least so we have an understanding of where everyone's gonna be placed, the capacity. I know it says it on the application, but at least we, we'll come back to this later on in the future. I mean, there've been times when you know, the capacity, the barstools capacity, not with you guys, but, you know, it's like, well, geez, how did it become 20 barstools when it was only supposed to be 15? And then we come back to the plans and we go, well, how did that happen? So I think if we have an up-to-date version of that, if you don't mind, I don't mean to, you know you probably need to be not to be spending more money you know it's like geez we've got to spend more money with this thing but but if you don't mind that would be great so we have a clear understanding would it be okay with with what you've got already where I said and I just pulled it up in front of me here where again we've got the seating is basically we
[Nick Bolitho]: written down where the seating is. So would it be accepted within just sort of would you just want the sort of the the individualized sort of tables that we're planning to put their drawn on here? Because that that I can get to you and we can probably get that to you basically into Daria's inbox before the end of the day.
[MCM00001210_SPEAKER_04]: Yeah perfect.
[Nick Bolitho]: That'd be good.
[MCM00001210_SPEAKER_04]: Yeah. Yeah. That's about as simple as I think it needs to be. It just indicates how many people actually can sit there.
[Allan Martorana]: Yeah.
[MCM00001210_SPEAKER_04]: And we understand that they're movable tables.
[Allan Martorana]: Yeah. And like I said, it kind of becomes the, you know, the, the Bible. So when we, we look back at things, we see what, what happened, how did things change or evolve? Okay. Good. Um, I don't have any questions. Bob, Dan, any comments, questions?
[MCM00001210_SPEAKER_04]: No, only thing kind of, Alan, so how would we leave it is that they're getting that to us and then we wait to make sort of a judgment once we see that, or do we base it off of if we see that and we see what we like, we're good with that. That's sort of maybe some direction.
[Allan Martorana]: I think we could make a conditional We can do a condition to providing Nick, I don't think Max is in New Mexico, but if we can get that, you know, by today and if Derek, Daria, if you can email us saying you got it and if you want to send it to us, we'd be fine. But I think we could make a conditional. Yeah. Okay. Providing Nick follows through with the elevation.
[MCM00001210_SPEAKER_04]: Yep. I agree, I don't want them to have to hold up the whole process for- No, no. For what is probably already done, so.
[Allan Martorana]: Yeah, because it's like 99.9 of it is there, I mean, they got it, so yeah.
[SPEAKER_06]: I agree.
[MCM00001210_SPEAKER_04]: So maybe just how we word that the motion might be in condition to that, maybe Alan.
[Allan Martorana]: Yeah, the approval would be subject to that, a current elevation of the plan. I think that would work. Terry, you got that? Yes. Okay. All right. So Bob, you want to second that?
[Robert Delafano]: Yeah, I second it.
[Allan Martorana]: All right. All in favor. All in favor. Aye. All right, guys. We'll keep moving forward. 30 days, we're going to hold you to that construction being completed in 30 days.
[Heinegg]: That would be great.
[Allan Martorana]: Yeah.
[Heinegg]: Very good.
[Allan Martorana]: Good luck. All right. Good. Thank you so much.
[Nick Bolitho]: Please get it to Daria if you don't mind. I will. I'll do that. Great. Thank you very much. OK. Thanks so much. Good, good.
[Allan Martorana]: Good. We got through that. Daria, it says any and all other businesses that may arise. Is there anything else on the docket or anything that you want to discuss?
[Daria Tejera]: No, I think we're good. Actually, well, the apartment permit, so I don't need to send this to the state, correct?
[Allan Martorana]: They're doing it. We're the LLA, right? We're the licensing authority. So we're okay, but they got to keep going forward with the state, right?
[Daria Tejera]: I don't know. I have no idea how the permit works. I got to read the rules and regulations again. But as far as I know, since they already got their proven Right. I think the rest just comes from us.
[Allan Martorana]: That's right. Yeah. They already have the brewing and then we just granted them the pouring permit that comes under our authority.
[Daria Tejera]: Okay. I just want to make sure that we don't need to send that to ABCC.
[Allan Martorana]: Yeah.
[Daria Tejera]: But I can always ask them as well too. Yeah.
[Allan Martorana]: It wouldn't hurt if you did send it to them, you know, what are they going to do? They'll send it back and say, you know, you know, we don't need this or something. So it wouldn't hurt. Yeah. The outdoor dining, you had mentioned that there was going to be two or three. What happened with that? I think one of them was Tanosh, one was Fiore Italy. Um, did Carol's Carol's.
[Daria Tejera]: So, yes, so it's kind of going through the last stages. So wasn't going to be ready for us to do this meeting. Okay, ask. I asked it bad from the planning development sustainability office to let me know when she would like me to schedule it once everything comes back. because what happens is that it goes through all the offices, everybody approves, then it goes to the mayor, the mayor signs it. As of right now, hasn't been fully approved yet, that's why. We didn't wanna give it to you guys if it wasn't all set 100%. Okay, so next month, right? Yeah, probably in like a week or two. Yvette will let me know.
[Robert Delafano]: Not to get off of this subject, but on page two of that application that we just went through, the license application, it says in red, application should be completed online, printed, signed, and submitted to the local licensing authority, which it just was. And then a little further down on page two in red, it also says the local licensing authority must mail this transmittal form along with completed application and supporting documents to the ABCC. So I don't know if, did we just complete that? This is what this is all about.
[Daria Tejera]: I'm gonna, yeah, I'm gonna have to ask them because that's a standard. They don't have application on their website specifically for brewing. So brewing kind of has to use like the new application that anybody would apply for. Technically, when we get a new application, the applicant will send it to us, then I'll send it to ABCC for further approval. This is a little bit different because they already were approved to brew by the state and that they're coming to us to sell. Yeah, they got the brewing license, yeah.
[Robert Delafano]: Okay, and so this is just the pouring permit part of it?
[Daria Tejera]: Yeah, yeah. I'm still gonna ask them if they need it or not, but I just, you know, I don't, I have no idea since this is our first one for sure.
[Allan Martorana]: Yeah, good point. Yeah, good question. Yeah. All right, well, good. Yeah. Thank you, Bob, for your questions, and in good catch on that whole transportation thing. As soon as you brought it up, I said, oh, crap.
[Robert Delafano]: I kind of remembered reading something about the certain limits or certain amounts that you could transport legally for wine, for alcohol, for whatever. But I think I'd feel better. kind of cover their butt as well. If they, you know, that's a bit something happens. Yeah, it's bought in some, you know, a truckload of cold beer from his place, and they hit a kid on a bike or something, you know, it's just, it's just CYA.
[Allan Martorana]: Yeah, yeah, no, you're right. You're right. I I only wish I caught it. I went, you know, I missed that part of it. That's what I just asked the question. And he just kept going on. And I was like, Okay, yeah. He kind of put his own foot in his mouth. Yeah, yeah, you're right. But no, at least he's got a solution to that where his friends got these freezer trucks and stuff. So at least, you know, there is a solution because I didn't want him to go, you know, then how are we going to do it? How do we get it there? You know, so at least he, you know, he's got enough friends and connections that, you know, that they have a solution to that concern. Good. Okay, well if there if there's nothing else diary are we, are we good to leave, I'll ask you if you have permission, can we go.
[Daria Tejera]: Yes, just call the meeting remember. Okay. Yeah.
[Allan Martorana]: All right. So, and all right motion to adjourn. I can second that. So at 204 we're going to adjourn. All right guys. Thank you. Once again, thank you for your vote of confidence. And like I said, if I become a train wreck, you know, hit me, let me know. Okay. All right. You'll be good. See you guys.
[Unidentified]: All right.
[Allan Martorana]: Thank you. Bye.